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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Hriston" data-source="post: 8476159" data-attributes="member: 6787503"><p>Yes, but coupled with the view that an ability check is descriptive of the effort a creature is making, rather than determining the result of its action, is the view that the result is non-binding in terms of outcome. That's why there are posters in this thread saying that they make Charisma checks against PCs but that they aren't taking any agency away from the players because they are free to just shrug it off, and that the same goes for the DM in the case of a check being made against an NPC. In contrast, my DMing principles tell me that I am absolutely bound to honor the results of a check, meaning that on a successful result, the goal of the acting creature is achieved in the fiction.</p></blockquote><p></p>