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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8476166" data-attributes="member: 23751">I see what happened.  The extra comma here threw me off, "Only, the way I read it, it's not, since:"  I read it as ONLY.  The way you read it, is... not "only the way you read it is..."  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" />Yeah, but I think that even if the loop is mandatory, the DM still gets to take actions.  Those actions would just fall into the category of the DM describing the environment.If I'm running some goblins in a combat, I'm not going to say, "The goblin is going to use the move action to move 20 feet to the Barbarian and then use the attack action to try and hit him."  It's going to be description, "The goblin rushes the Barbarian screaming something in goblin as he does so.  The goblins arm is already in motion as he arrives, his axe arcing downward towards Kojak's thigh."  Even though I took an action for the goblin, it could still be viewed as environmental description and follow the play loop.</blockquote>