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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8476968" data-attributes="member: 84112">that is correct, but if the DC is 15 and you have a +2 you need a 13+ on the die.  That is the range. It is the expected amount of intimidation the orc is supposed to show...  I have yet to hear how anyone that NEVER uses skill rolls decides how to rule impromptu how intimidating someone is without cha checks...For the DM and player to agree that ALL attempts at any social skills must be out of game is fine (it is an interpretation of the rules).  FOr the DM and player to agree SOME attempts at social skills will be handled by RP and others by Dice is fine (It is my interpretation, sometimes one sometimes the other). It is even fine this thread is full of people who when they DM say Some PC checks some PC RP, but all NPC will be RP is fine too (I still don't get it, but I understand how they may have read the rules that way)</blockquote>