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Message: <blockquote data-quote="clearstream" data-source="post: 8478951" data-attributes="member: 71699">On DMG 237 there are these words, addressed to the DM -If PHB 185 is a rule, then a player can decide not to automatically succeed. Right? But then it would not be true that a DM can decide at any time that they are automatically successful. PHB 185 - if taken as a rule - creates straight-up contradictions in RAW that don't exist if we just read the text naturally.What is roleplaying? It's defined right here. This is a definition not a rule: it is guidance. When you are roleplaying this is what you are typically doing.No, I wouldn't. Nothing I have said has implied I would. But less us take the opposite .P1 - Remember when we met Trool the Troll?P2 - No I - Hrukk the Merciless I mean - has no memory of that.DM - Actually you do remember, because I'm saying you automatically succeed in remembering.[EDIT To be clear, I absolutely do not think the DM should say that. It would suck! My point is to highlight the contradiction... if PHB 185 were a rule.]</blockquote>