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<blockquote data-quote="Maxperson" data-source="post: 8478974" data-attributes="member: 23751"><p>So the DM doesn't have to have the power to declare both auto success and failure to everything the PC tries. He can have ability to just say yes, but have more limited authority to say no. </p><p></p><p>As for the conflicting rules of player being able to say no and DM being able to say yes, that's not evidence of anything other than Specific Beats General needs to come into play. Since a player deciding for a single PC under limited circumstances is more specific than the DM being able to say yes in general, the PC rule would trump.</p><p></p><p>No. guidance is "You might call for a check when..." <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Something definitive is a rule. This IS the way it is.</p><p></p><p>So this again moves the goalposts, but in a more subtle way than HammerMan tried. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>I'm not talking about P2. I'm talking about P1 who established with certainty that he remembered the troll's name. Is the DM by RAW able to tell P1 that he does not remember or that he might not remember and require a roll?</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Maxperson, post: 8478974, member: 23751"] So the DM doesn't have to have the power to declare both auto success and failure to everything the PC tries. He can have ability to just say yes, but have more limited authority to say no. As for the conflicting rules of player being able to say no and DM being able to say yes, that's not evidence of anything other than Specific Beats General needs to come into play. Since a player deciding for a single PC under limited circumstances is more specific than the DM being able to say yes in general, the PC rule would trump. No. guidance is "You might call for a check when..." ;) Something definitive is a rule. This IS the way it is. So this again moves the goalposts, but in a more subtle way than HammerMan tried. ;) I'm not talking about P2. I'm talking about P1 who established with certainty that he remembered the troll's name. Is the DM by RAW able to tell P1 that he does not remember or that he might not remember and require a roll? [/QUOTE]
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