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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8479023" data-attributes="member: 84112">no but calling out what can and can not be exceptions to it would be nice... there are alot of exception you accept but one you wont.where are these categories? can I find a list? what book mentions them?yes, and as such when an NPC does something that fit (doesn't auto pass/fail may make it may fail and has a meaning ful consequence) the DM rolls the NPC stat or stat+skill. yupnope and we have explained why up thread MANY timesand since the player can not always know how _______ the NPC is and this is not a story telling competition where a DM must be able to describe in detail (and in some cases of intimidate and seduction especially the PC/DM may not WANT to) the result is uncertain.and therefore we use ability checks</blockquote>