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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8479051" data-attributes="member: 84112">the rules are there if the DM is uncertain though *as you LOVE to point out"except you can't prove it is the 'correct way' any more or less then I can prove mine is. that is why the mature constructive thing to do is agree we are reading the rules differently without either being correct or incorrect.yes and an NPC making a Cha check can have all of those.yes just like the consequences of going to bed with a disguised mantis person may get you into a fight where they try to rip your head off (without your armor and weapon most likely). Just like any other check in the game...We roll to determine the outcome of an action without assigning any motivations to the DMFrom the DMGno WE don't... YOU DO.</blockquote>