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Message: <blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8479844" data-attributes="member: 84112">diffrent DCs... just like I can roll hide and have a wis 10 untrained percever be DC 10 and a Wis 20 skill prof and expertis in perception DC 21 and 5 other numbers inbetweenokay and that is?yes and no.  Hiding in ambush to wait for someone to come by is an example, it may not matter when you hide, but the fact that you did could be important 20 minutes later.weird idea, but I agreeyeah, back in 2e infravision had some fun ways to be used to see heat.right, may not ever matter, wont matter until someone comes by...yeah, like when I had a PC with a huge stealth check a few years ago say he was going to slide into the foot locker to hide and I told him no roll needed... he hide.</blockquote>