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<blockquote data-quote="HammerMan" data-source="post: 8481165" data-attributes="member: 84112">sigh, we quotes the rules on checks, we quoted rules on individual skills we quoted the MM has these social skills I then went through Iseriths criteria showing it... what else would you like?Okay, what will it take to get you to understand we are not house ruling but interpreting the same rules you are just differently?Okay lets start withthen move tothen toso we have monsters and NPCs have the same stats and prof bonus as PCs, and use the same subsystems. there are no exceptions listed. no where is there a carve out or exception for NPCs still (or monsters)except again, that is something I have been calling out as a house rule for 80% of this thread... you can use the same RAW with set DCs, you just have to look up the &quot;How to set a DC&quot;nope again not going for a strawman.above is the raw look for yourself.yup... by RAW you are right, so set a DC and roll for the NPC</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HammerMan, post: 8481165, member: 84112"] sigh, we quotes the rules on checks, we quoted rules on individual skills we quoted the MM has these social skills I then went through Iseriths criteria showing it... what else would you like? Okay, what will it take to get you to understand we are not house ruling but interpreting the same rules you are just differently? Okay lets start with then move to then to so we have monsters and NPCs have the same stats and prof bonus as PCs, and use the same subsystems. there are no exceptions listed. no where is there a carve out or exception for NPCs still (or monsters) except again, that is something I have been calling out as a house rule for 80% of this thread... you can use the same RAW with set DCs, you just have to look up the "How to set a DC" nope again not going for a strawman. above is the raw look for yourself. yup... by RAW you are right, so set a DC and roll for the NPC [/QUOTE]

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