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<blockquote data-quote="Ridley's Cohort" data-source="post: 1900081" data-attributes="member: 545">To some extent, how I picture it is kind of irrelevant to me, as I find that most of the &quot;realism&quot; arguments for AoO + Cleave beyond my SOD.&nbsp; It is just plain odd when the targets are separated by a lot of physical space.&nbsp; I am sure we can rationalize better if I put my mind to it....&nbsp; <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> I would suggest a completely different tact.&nbsp; Our hero is not actually killing those summoned monsters.&nbsp; No, he is tripping them and shoving them into the BBEG such that the BBEG is actually killing them without even blinking.&nbsp; But when doing so the BBEG allows a miniscule opening in defenses such that our hero can take advantage.While our hero is using his longspear stats to resolve this action mechanically, what is really happening is something else entirely.How does that sound?You should be used to oddly abstract post hoc narratives if you have followed these threads as long as you have.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Ridley's Cohort, post: 1900081, member: 545"] To some extent, how I picture it is kind of irrelevant to me, as I find that most of the "realism" arguments for AoO + Cleave beyond my SOD. It is just plain odd when the targets are separated by a lot of physical space. I am sure we can rationalize better if I put my mind to it.... ;) I would suggest a completely different tact. Our hero is not actually killing those summoned monsters. No, he is tripping them and shoving them into the BBEG such that the BBEG is actually killing them without even blinking. But when doing so the BBEG allows a miniscule opening in defenses such that our hero can take advantage. While our hero is using his longspear stats to resolve this action mechanically, what is really happening is something else entirely. How does that sound? You should be used to oddly abstract post hoc narratives if you have followed these threads as long as you have. [/QUOTE]

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