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<blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 1903385" data-attributes="member: 20931"><p>One question then: This sounds like a more powerful version of the 9th level spell 'Atral Projection'. You wish for me to believe that a 1st level spell will call a conciousness, guide it to this plane in one round, and provide a body when a Astral projection cannot guarantee you the ability of finding the plane you wnat in one month?</p><p></p><p>If these are simple constructs, then why the 24 hour reformation delay? If this is a virtual senario, why not an instant unplugging and an 'oops, died again, need another quarter'. Even astral Projection does not cause this long of a delay if you die on another plane. </p><p></p><p>God DO allow their minions to suffer, if it suits their needs. Why make a 20th paladin or cleric fight their long time BBEG, if they can just send a solar (remember, constructs feel no pain) to do the dirty work. Why force the paladin cleric to suffer or die. Heck, why cause any of their underling to die, if they can just send an unfeeling construct...</p><p></p><p>Lastly, I'd like to think that WotC learned from their mistakes in 3.0 and and MtG. If a false body is created, then it would be listred directly in the spell description, without the need for inferred or circumstantial evidence.</p><p></p><p>Prefer the KISS rule. Over thinking tends to cause eggs to fly into faces <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p><p></p><p>Now back to my original question: how, in real time, can one ally blatantly kill another ally to gain an extra attack. Morlity aside, just describe the process, blow by blow...</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Storyteller01, post: 1903385, member: 20931"] One question then: This sounds like a more powerful version of the 9th level spell 'Atral Projection'. You wish for me to believe that a 1st level spell will call a conciousness, guide it to this plane in one round, and provide a body when a Astral projection cannot guarantee you the ability of finding the plane you wnat in one month? If these are simple constructs, then why the 24 hour reformation delay? If this is a virtual senario, why not an instant unplugging and an 'oops, died again, need another quarter'. Even astral Projection does not cause this long of a delay if you die on another plane. God DO allow their minions to suffer, if it suits their needs. Why make a 20th paladin or cleric fight their long time BBEG, if they can just send a solar (remember, constructs feel no pain) to do the dirty work. Why force the paladin cleric to suffer or die. Heck, why cause any of their underling to die, if they can just send an unfeeling construct... Lastly, I'd like to think that WotC learned from their mistakes in 3.0 and and MtG. If a false body is created, then it would be listred directly in the spell description, without the need for inferred or circumstantial evidence. Prefer the KISS rule. Over thinking tends to cause eggs to fly into faces :) Now back to my original question: how, in real time, can one ally blatantly kill another ally to gain an extra attack. Morlity aside, just describe the process, blow by blow... [/QUOTE]
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