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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 1906641" data-attributes="member: 2268"><p>Please, we're not heading into another argument about what constitutes an enemy in D&D rules speak? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"They" must enter to attack. Which makes them enemies of the attacked "opponent", who by then is entitled to an AoO.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>"You" want to attack the reach creature, which makes you it's enemy, so it is entitled to an AoO against you.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Which only means that somebody who would provoke an AoO from you (which means he's your enemy) can't be hit by it because you can't reach him due to cover.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>So an enemy provoked an AoO, but you can't attack him because of his total concealment.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, so you qualify as an enemy to those around you who want to stop you Coup de grace-ing your victim, and as such provoke an AoO from them.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Means that you are an enemy to those who oppose you (your opponents), and who hence get an AoO on you in that situation.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Probably because you qualify as the target's enemy when you have to forcefully strike it's weapon to disarm it? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Yeah, probably, but in every quote we have either "enemy" or "opponent", both words that describe those in a combat who are fighting against you...so where's the problem right now? </p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused :confused:" data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 1906641, member: 2268"] Please, we're not heading into another argument about what constitutes an enemy in D&D rules speak? :confused: "They" must enter to attack. Which makes them enemies of the attacked "opponent", who by then is entitled to an AoO. "You" want to attack the reach creature, which makes you it's enemy, so it is entitled to an AoO against you. Which only means that somebody who would provoke an AoO from you (which means he's your enemy) can't be hit by it because you can't reach him due to cover. So an enemy provoked an AoO, but you can't attack him because of his total concealment. Yeah, so you qualify as an enemy to those around you who want to stop you Coup de grace-ing your victim, and as such provoke an AoO from them. Means that you are an enemy to those who oppose you (your opponents), and who hence get an AoO on you in that situation. Probably because you qualify as the target's enemy when you have to forcefully strike it's weapon to disarm it? ;) Yeah, probably, but in every quote we have either "enemy" or "opponent", both words that describe those in a combat who are fighting against you...so where's the problem right now? :confused: [/QUOTE]
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