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<blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1907207" data-attributes="member: 2011"><p>In DND-speak, an "enemy" is a specific type of creature. It is a creature that wishes you ill as per the literal definition of enemy in the game. It is based off the reaction of that creature to you, not your reaction to it. Now, this is the literal rules definition. Please feel free to ignore it because I do. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink ;)" data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /></p><p></p><p>Enemies and opponents would be two sets that intersect, but they also have areas where one is true or the other is not true.</p><p></p><p>For example, an unthinking Zombie can be an opponent, but it cannot be an enemy because it does not wish you ill (by the literal definition).</p><p></p><p>The man would killed your parents, wants to kill you, and who you do not know killed your parents is an enemy. Literally, you would not consider him an opponent because you do not know he is your enemy. And about the only spell in the PHB which would affect him (unexpectedly) is Bane because Bane is the only spell (tmk) that targets enemies as opposed to targeting opponents or foes.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Personally, I have no problem with Enemies meaning Opponents (since is a simpler rule) and Bane targeting who you want it to, but that is not the literal interpretation.</p><p></p><p></p><p>Hence, people attempt to use the literal definition of enemy to mean that AoOs cannot target non-enemies. But, to me this is ludicrous. Anyone who does certain actions in the area that your character threatens can be AoOed as far as I am concerned. Plus, as per the rules I quoted, opponents can be AoOed.</p><p></p><p>Since I DEFINITELY can declare who my opponents are, AoOs are fair game for anyone my character wants them to.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="KarinsDad, post: 1907207, member: 2011"] In DND-speak, an "enemy" is a specific type of creature. It is a creature that wishes you ill as per the literal definition of enemy in the game. It is based off the reaction of that creature to you, not your reaction to it. Now, this is the literal rules definition. Please feel free to ignore it because I do. ;) Enemies and opponents would be two sets that intersect, but they also have areas where one is true or the other is not true. For example, an unthinking Zombie can be an opponent, but it cannot be an enemy because it does not wish you ill (by the literal definition). The man would killed your parents, wants to kill you, and who you do not know killed your parents is an enemy. Literally, you would not consider him an opponent because you do not know he is your enemy. And about the only spell in the PHB which would affect him (unexpectedly) is Bane because Bane is the only spell (tmk) that targets enemies as opposed to targeting opponents or foes. Personally, I have no problem with Enemies meaning Opponents (since is a simpler rule) and Bane targeting who you want it to, but that is not the literal interpretation. Hence, people attempt to use the literal definition of enemy to mean that AoOs cannot target non-enemies. But, to me this is ludicrous. Anyone who does certain actions in the area that your character threatens can be AoOed as far as I am concerned. Plus, as per the rules I quoted, opponents can be AoOed. Since I DEFINITELY can declare who my opponents are, AoOs are fair game for anyone my character wants them to. [/QUOTE]
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