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<blockquote data-quote="Geron Raveneye" data-source="post: 1907562" data-attributes="member: 2268">@StorytellerI think he's already answered your question with this line here:He's effectively saying that the only difference betwen another player character and a summoned creature as target for an AoO is the fact that his fighter wants to use an AoO against the summoned creatures, whereas he doesn't want to use one against the other player character. If he saw a reason to do so, though, he would use an AoO against another player character, too.About the whole opponent/enemy &quot;problem&quot;...it's actually not too hard. As far as I see it, an enemy is a creature or a character who would try to do me harm in some way if he got hold of me, saw me or got the opportunity to do so indirectly, e.g. by hurting someone I love. That includes a Zombie if it has the orders to harm me. It may not be thinking by itself, but it's orders will place it among my enemies, as it would try to harm me if it got hold of me. An opponent is somebody who opposes me on an action I'm trying to accomplish. That could well be that Zombie, too, an enemy and opponent in combat, it could also be the paladin from my group trying to stop me from delivering the coup-de-grace on the evil high priest we managed to tangle up in a net.My take on the morality of the situation is that, as soon as a character has no problems switching his perceptions to see his allies as moving target practice, he probably is on his way to become an evil character if he isn't so already. And yes, there's heaps of factors to keep track of in that adjustment, I know. As KarinsDad already pointed out, if a character wants to, he can attack anybody, even his friends and allies...the question is simply what repercussions does it have on his alignment.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Geron Raveneye, post: 1907562, member: 2268"] @Storyteller I think he's already answered your question with this line here: He's effectively saying that the only difference betwen another player character and a summoned creature as target for an AoO is the fact that his fighter wants to use an AoO against the summoned creatures, whereas he doesn't want to use one against the other player character. If he saw a reason to do so, though, he would use an AoO against another player character, too. About the whole opponent/enemy "problem"...it's actually not too hard. As far as I see it, an enemy is a creature or a character who would try to do me harm in some way if he got hold of me, saw me or got the opportunity to do so indirectly, e.g. by hurting someone I love. That includes a Zombie if it has the orders to harm me. It may not be thinking by itself, but it's orders will place it among my enemies, as it would try to harm me if it got hold of me. An opponent is somebody who opposes me on an action I'm trying to accomplish. That could well be that Zombie, too, an enemy and opponent in combat, it could also be the paladin from my group trying to stop me from delivering the coup-de-grace on the evil high priest we managed to tangle up in a net. My take on the morality of the situation is that, as soon as a character has no problems switching his perceptions to see his allies as moving target practice, he probably is on his way to become an evil character [b]if he isn't so already.[/b] And yes, there's heaps of factors to keep track of in that adjustment, I know. As KarinsDad already pointed out, if a character wants to, he can attack anybody, even his friends and allies...the question is simply what repercussions does it have on his alignment. [/QUOTE]

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