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<blockquote data-quote="Abraxas" data-source="post: 1908870" data-attributes="member: 1266">So What. After the character was &quot;killed&quot; he came back from the summons and was fine.&nbsp; You couldn't actually die.&nbsp; You didn't even have to wait 24 hours to reform.&nbsp;Not any more, adventurers can't be summoned.&nbsp; Back in 1E it was a so what situation.&nbsp; Now in 3E if you gate me in, we negotiate and I do have a choice of terms.&nbsp;Where does it say they have a problem with this?&nbsp; You are also inferring. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />&nbsp;This is just the way I (and others apparently) read it.&nbsp; Summoned creaturs show up and attack the enemy, regardless of anything, except if the summoner tells them to do something else - in which case they do that.&nbsp; They already show up for and die, repeatedly, for a minor benefit in almost every other instance.&nbsp; This is just one more way of dying.&nbsp;We have a disagreement on summoned creatures - I understand your point of view (and thats fine in your game) but I have my own point of view (which is fine for my games).&nbsp; Either can be supported by the rules.&nbsp; I don't expect you to change your mind, but I would hope you can see my point of view, even if you disagree.&nbsp;And thats all there is to it, we disagree on this point <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

[QUOTE="Abraxas, post: 1908870, member: 1266"] So What. After the character was "killed" he came back from the summons and was fine. You couldn't actually die. You didn't even have to wait 24 hours to reform. Not any more, adventurers can't be summoned. Back in 1E it was a so what situation. Now in 3E if you gate me in, we negotiate and I do have a choice of terms. Where does it say they have a problem with this? You are also inferring. :) This is just the way I (and others apparently) read it. Summoned creaturs show up and attack the enemy, regardless of anything, except if the summoner tells them to do something else - in which case they do that. They already show up for and die, repeatedly, for a minor benefit in almost every other instance. This is just one more way of dying. We have a disagreement on summoned creatures - I understand your point of view (and thats fine in your game) but I have my own point of view (which is fine for my games). Either can be supported by the rules. I don't expect you to change your mind, but I would hope you can see my point of view, even if you disagree. And thats all there is to it, we disagree on this point :) [/QUOTE]

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