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<blockquote data-quote="Storyteller01" data-source="post: 1908976" data-attributes="member: 20931">As for the first, DM are evil this way. HIgher powers don't usually follow the rules <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />As for the second, not at all. The spell description states that a creature is summoned. It does not say that bodies are supplied, creature will not remember, or that their consciousness is otherwise effected. Based off of this and info given on alignments, I would have to say that killing them for your own benefit is neutral at best. But that is not my point. So far, only very specific examples have been given as to how attacking someone or something (use a trained hunting animal in place of the summoned creature, if you like) working with you (as in not attacking you or meaning you harm) will grant a faster attack. Claiming said animal got in the way is, imho, not a legitimate response. That tells me that you were already attacking. The critter could not have given such an advantage in that case.How can a summoned critter coming either from your rear or side (if their coming from the opponents rear, you can't reach them anyway) make your already planned attack any faster?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Storyteller01, post: 1908976, member: 20931"] As for the first, DM are evil this way. HIgher powers don't usually follow the rules :) As for the second, not at all. The spell description states that a creature is summoned. It does not say that bodies are supplied, creature will not remember, or that their consciousness is otherwise effected. Based off of this and info given on alignments, I would have to say that killing them for your own benefit is neutral at best. But that is not my point. So far, only very specific examples have been given as to how attacking someone or something (use a trained hunting animal in place of the summoned creature, if you like) working with you (as in not attacking you or meaning you harm) will grant a faster attack. Claiming said animal got in the way is, imho, not a legitimate response. That tells me that you were already attacking. The critter could not have given such an advantage in that case. How can a summoned critter coming either from your rear or side (if their coming from the opponents rear, you can't reach them anyway) make your already planned attack any faster? [/QUOTE]

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