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Message: <blockquote data-quote="KarinsDad" data-source="post: 1910637" data-attributes="member: 2011">Back at you.1) "It is not really dead."It's body can be totally destroyed and it still does NOT die. Just because it does not have a body does not mean that it is dead. Reforming a body does not mean that it is dead. You are putting "real world" conditions onto a fantasy game where the rules do not support you.Read the rules instead of making opinionated unsupported claims.2) It is NOT your friend. It is not an ally. It is a slave who does what it is told to do. It has no ability to be your friend.3) The actions are not evil. You ignore the facts that it cannot die and it cannot be an ally, hence, harming it cannot be considered evil.Next you will state that a good PC who does not sacrifice himself to protect the summoned creature is not performing a good act as per:"Good characters and creatures protect innocent life....Good implies altruism, respect for life, and a concern for the dignity of sentient beings. Good characters make personal sacrifices to help others."I suspect that you have NEVER been in a game where a PC tried to protect the summoned creature.Hmmmmm. Guess all of the good PCs in your games are not good after all.You guys cannot have it both ways:Either summoned creatures are slaves and summoning one in the first place is an evil act.Or they are not slaves and every time you use a summoned creature to fight a bad guy, you are performing the evil act of putting another in harms way (to protect yourself).Period.Your morality arguments are totally lame because evil and good is not based on what you do, it is based on why you do it.PS. You have still totally avoided the following:I suspect that you haven't quoted a rule to support your claim because there is no such rule.</blockquote>

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