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<blockquote data-quote="HarryFlashman" data-source="post: 1332666" data-attributes="member: 16377">I just&nbsp; printed the&nbsp; class as&nbsp; presented&nbsp; in the&nbsp;&nbsp; book &quot;Forbidden Kingdoms&quot; published by Otherworld Creations ( <a href="http://www.otherworlds.cx/" target="_blank">http://www.otherworlds.cx/</a>).&nbsp; It is not&nbsp;&nbsp; a&nbsp; class&nbsp; developed by me, but the&nbsp;&nbsp; parenthesied comments&nbsp; were&nbsp; mine.I thought the&nbsp; &quot;5 skill points&quot; thing was a bit odd myself, but as I said, I just presented the class as it was printed.&nbsp; I think&nbsp; that if I use the class I will&nbsp; use&nbsp;&nbsp; 6 skill points&nbsp; rather than the published&nbsp; 5.you said this:What is&nbsp; &quot;it&quot;? Skills that&nbsp; recieve a&nbsp;&nbsp; +3 bonus or&nbsp; something else entirely?Are you saying that&nbsp;&nbsp; Skill Focus&nbsp; every&nbsp; two levels&nbsp; would&nbsp; take the place of the bonus points awarded&nbsp; every&nbsp; three levels?&nbsp; In this case a&nbsp; +2 Skill Focus&nbsp; bonus&nbsp; to&nbsp; one skill every other level rather than a&nbsp; +1 bonus to&nbsp; five skills every three levels?ok asuming both skills&nbsp;&nbsp; are&nbsp;&nbsp; equalSkill Focus&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; Expertise Bonus+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +3 x5+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1 x5+2+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; +1 x5+2&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; +1 x5+2At&nbsp; tenth level&nbsp; the&nbsp; bonus points from&nbsp; the Skill Focus feat&nbsp; equals +12 ( 2 points to&nbsp; 6 skills) skill points while the&nbsp; bonus points&nbsp; from the&nbsp; Expertise Bonus class feature&nbsp; would award 30 skill points ( [3x5] + [1x5] + [1x5] + [1x5] ).Agreed.&nbsp; This is a&nbsp; bit excessiveIf we trimmed the first level bonus&nbsp; down to&nbsp; a +1 bonus then we&nbsp; see a&nbsp; total of&nbsp; 20 points which is still excessive.If we&nbsp; trim the&nbsp;&nbsp; number of skills the bonus is applicable&nbsp; to four skills then we see a&nbsp; total of 24 skill points.If we combine both of these&nbsp; measures we see 16 total skill points but&nbsp; there is also a&nbsp; long period of&nbsp; wating&nbsp; between class features so I would have to say that I agree with your assessment.ok,&nbsp; my next&nbsp; question.&nbsp; Would you play this class in a low magic world?(No, I do not have any&nbsp; plans for including alchemy in&nbsp; the&nbsp; campaign but I would nto be&nbsp; adverse to including&nbsp; it.&nbsp; Do you have a&nbsp; good link for&nbsp; simple alchemy rules?)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="HarryFlashman, post: 1332666, member: 16377"] I just printed the class as presented in the book "Forbidden Kingdoms" published by Otherworld Creations ( [url]http://www.otherworlds.cx/[/url]). It is not a class developed by me, but the parenthesied comments were mine. I thought the "5 skill points" thing was a bit odd myself, but as I said, I just presented the class as it was printed. I think that if I use the class I will use 6 skill points rather than the published 5. you said this: What is "it"? Skills that recieve a +3 bonus or something else entirely? Are you saying that Skill Focus every two levels would take the place of the bonus points awarded every three levels? In this case a +2 Skill Focus bonus to one skill every other level rather than a +1 bonus to five skills every three levels? ok asuming both skills are equal Skill Focus Expertise Bonus +2 +3 x5 +2 +1 x5 +2 +2 +1 x5 +2 +1 x5 +2 At tenth level the bonus points from the Skill Focus feat equals +12 ( 2 points to 6 skills) skill points while the bonus points from the Expertise Bonus class feature would award 30 skill points ( [3x5] + [1x5] + [1x5] + [1x5] ). Agreed. This is a bit excessive If we trimmed the first level bonus down to a +1 bonus then we see a total of 20 points which is still excessive. If we trim the number of skills the bonus is applicable to four skills then we see a total of 24 skill points. If we combine both of these measures we see 16 total skill points but there is also a long period of wating between class features so I would have to say that I agree with your assessment. ok, my next question. Would you play this class in a low magic world? (No, I do not have any plans for including alchemy in the campaign but I would nto be adverse to including it. Do you have a good link for simple alchemy rules?) [/QUOTE]

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