Menu
News
All News
Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
Pathfinder
Starfinder
Warhammer
2d20 System
Year Zero Engine
Industry News
Reviews
Dragon Reflections
White Dwarf Reflections
Columns
Weekly Digests
Weekly News Digest
Freebies, Sales & Bundles
RPG Print News
RPG Crowdfunding News
Game Content
ENterplanetary DimENsions
Mythological Figures
Opinion
Worlds of Design
Peregrine's Nest
RPG Evolution
Other Columns
From the Freelancing Frontline
Monster ENcyclopedia
WotC/TSR Alumni Look Back
4 Hours w/RSD (Ryan Dancey)
The Road to 3E (Jonathan Tweet)
Greenwood's Realms (Ed Greenwood)
Drawmij's TSR (Jim Ward)
Community
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Resources
Wiki
Pages
Latest activity
Media
New media
New comments
Search media
Downloads
Latest reviews
Search resources
EN Publishing
Store
EN5ider
Adventures in ZEITGEIST
Awfully Cheerful Engine
What's OLD is NEW
Judge Dredd & The Worlds Of 2000AD
War of the Burning Sky
Level Up: Advanced 5E
Events & Releases
Upcoming Events
Private Events
Featured Events
Socials!
EN Publishing
Twitter
BlueSky
Facebook
Instagram
EN World
BlueSky
YouTube
Facebook
Twitter
Twitch
Podcast
Features
Top 5 RPGs Compiled Charts 2004-Present
Adventure Game Industry Market Research Summary (RPGs) V1.0
Ryan Dancey: Acquiring TSR
Q&A With Gary Gygax
D&D Rules FAQs
TSR, WotC, & Paizo: A Comparative History
D&D Pronunciation Guide
Million Dollar TTRPG Kickstarters
Tabletop RPG Podcast Hall of Fame
Eric Noah's Unofficial D&D 3rd Edition News
D&D in the Mainstream
D&D & RPG History
About Morrus
Log in
Register
What's new
Search
Search
Search titles only
By:
Forums & Topics
Forum List
Latest Posts
Forum list
*Dungeons & Dragons
Level Up: Advanced 5th Edition
D&D Older Editions
*TTRPGs General
*Pathfinder & Starfinder
EN Publishing
*Geek Talk & Media
Search forums
Chat/Discord
Menu
Log in
Register
Install the app
Install
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Using Wands/Staves and Misty Step
JavaScript is disabled. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding.
You are using an out of date browser. It may not display this or other websites correctly.
You should upgrade or use an
alternative browser
.
Reply to thread
Message
<blockquote data-quote="the Jester" data-source="post: 7507332" data-attributes="member: 1210"><p>If you use a magic item that allows you to cast a spell, you're still casting a spell. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Others have already provided the relevant quotes. Again, a wand typically <strong>allows the user to cast a spell.</strong> It does not cast the spell itself. Potions, on the other hand, provide you with the benefits of a spell without allowing you to cast it.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You can. Nothing dumb about it (and please refrain from insulting those who play differently than you). Counterspell is a spell; you can counterspell any spell you see being cast. There's no "except those with a casting time of 1 reaction" exception.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>5e does not have spell-like abilities. It has innate spellcasting, which <em>often</em> allows you to cast without some components, but not always. For example, a dao's innate spellcasting allows it to cast certain spells without material components, but it still requires verbal and somatic components. Either way, though, the dao is still explicitly casting a spell.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>None of that is supported by the actual rules. </p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>No, it's just for the turn you cast on. So if you cast a bonus action casting time spell on your turn, you can use a reaction casting time spell on the next turn.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>You cannot use a counterspell on your turn if you cast a spell with a bonus action casting time on your turn. Later in the round, you absolutely can. Slots have absolutely nothing to do with it. The rules limiting other spells if you cast a bonus action casting time spell always refer to casting a spell, not to expending a spell slot.</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>This is also unsupported by the rules. All that said...</p><p></p><p></p><p></p><p>Well, okay then! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /> But this significantly reduces the value of your post vis-a-vis how the rules actually work. Regardless, play however you like and however works for you and your table. But you might want to lead with this point, rather than tacking it onto the end of your post, so as not to lead people who are looking for how the rules work as written astray.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="the Jester, post: 7507332, member: 1210"] If you use a magic item that allows you to cast a spell, you're still casting a spell. Others have already provided the relevant quotes. Again, a wand typically [b]allows the user to cast a spell.[/b] It does not cast the spell itself. Potions, on the other hand, provide you with the benefits of a spell without allowing you to cast it. You can. Nothing dumb about it (and please refrain from insulting those who play differently than you). Counterspell is a spell; you can counterspell any spell you see being cast. There's no "except those with a casting time of 1 reaction" exception. 5e does not have spell-like abilities. It has innate spellcasting, which [i]often[/i] allows you to cast without some components, but not always. For example, a dao's innate spellcasting allows it to cast certain spells without material components, but it still requires verbal and somatic components. Either way, though, the dao is still explicitly casting a spell. None of that is supported by the actual rules. No, it's just for the turn you cast on. So if you cast a bonus action casting time spell on your turn, you can use a reaction casting time spell on the next turn. You cannot use a counterspell on your turn if you cast a spell with a bonus action casting time on your turn. Later in the round, you absolutely can. Slots have absolutely nothing to do with it. The rules limiting other spells if you cast a bonus action casting time spell always refer to casting a spell, not to expending a spell slot. This is also unsupported by the rules. All that said... Well, okay then! :) But this significantly reduces the value of your post vis-a-vis how the rules actually work. Regardless, play however you like and however works for you and your table. But you might want to lead with this point, rather than tacking it onto the end of your post, so as not to lead people who are looking for how the rules work as written astray. [/QUOTE]
Insert quotes…
Verification
Post reply
Community
General Tabletop Discussion
*Dungeons & Dragons
Using Wands/Staves and Misty Step
Top