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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Matrix Sorcica" data-source="post: 1176597" data-attributes="member: 3547">Nah, like I said: I only gave it a quick readthrough, so I don't think you are to blame.  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />  I know. The +0.8 was total. (.6 for 20/magic and +0.2 for an extra /+2 = 0.8 CR)By using your old system of each plus negating 5 points of DR so that DR is not an all or nothing exercise. This is something I've been toying with and I think is a good idea.So, the balor has DR 15/cold iron and good. In my campaign the balor has DR 15/+3, cold iron and good. So is a weapon isn't cold iron and good, DR 15 applies. If the weapon is cold iron and good, it is at least +1 as well. Then I'm using your old rule of each plus negating 5 points of DR. So against a +1 cold iron and good weapon the balor has DR 10. See?So is the CR adjustment the same as you've stated or would you rate it differently now that you (I hope  <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" /> ) see what I'm getting at. I'm thinking that I could use the system as is, and just add + 0.1 per plus.No, I am not turning a monster into a template. I don't understand what you mean. I don't think the golden rule is relevant for a troll as character discussion.What I'm doing is i'm taking a Troll (CR 6 by the silver rule and I won't ignore that rule when it comes to comparing power between players) and adding equipment for a PC. That makes it CR 7 point something which is ECL 7. So your troll is a 7th lvl character. For arguments sake, lets say ECL 8. Please try and convince my players that this isn't overpowered.To me it makes no difference if a troll has +10 on stats compared to a large creature. Cause I'm not making a template. I'm taking a troll as is and adding PC equipment and getting ECL 7. Can you help me out?I remain, as always, your obedient and most annoying rules lawyer.</blockquote>

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