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<blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 1182954" data-attributes="member: 94">I hope it's helpful and UK deems it mathematically sound.You need to throw out your old conception of EL. Part of the confusion of UK's document is when old definitions hold over.EL is simply a gauge of RELATIVE power. A CR 5 encounter is EL10, yes, because a 5th level character is ALSO EL10. You could conceivably throw out the EL &quot;conversion&quot; table altogether, and compare CR to CR. The problem with that method, though, is that CRs can get very high, very fast, especially when you are totalling the CRs on both sides of a fight, making the math unwieldy. What the EL table does is it &quot;boils down&quot; CR to a new value, EL. You can then compare EL to EL on a much lower scale and with greater facility. You could use the old CRs from the MM, plug them into the same EL table, and still end up with &quot;correct&quot; relative values-- this means that all further EL comparisons and calculations will still be correct. (This also assumes that you stick with 1 Character Level = 1 CR.)What you can't do is mix and match CRs from WOTC and CRs from UK (unless you apply some of his &quot;quick fix&quot; calculations first). It's useful, then, to have a list of recalculated CRs, because the real strength of what UK has (in my opinion) is that you can easily add abilities to characters, and know their exact CR and EL relative to their opponents.Wulf</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Wulf Ratbane, post: 1182954, member: 94"] I hope it's helpful and UK deems it mathematically sound. You need to throw out your old conception of EL. Part of the confusion of UK's document is when old definitions hold over. EL is simply a gauge of RELATIVE power. A CR 5 encounter is EL10, yes, because a 5th level character is ALSO EL10. You could conceivably throw out the EL "conversion" table altogether, and compare CR to CR. The problem with that method, though, is that CRs can get very high, very fast, especially when you are totalling the CRs on both sides of a fight, making the math unwieldy. What the EL table does is it "boils down" CR to a new value, EL. You can then compare EL to EL on a much lower scale and with greater facility. You could use the old CRs from the MM, plug them into the same EL table, and still end up with "correct" relative values-- this means that all further EL comparisons and calculations will still be correct. (This also assumes that you stick with 1 Character Level = 1 CR.) What you can't do is mix and match CRs from WOTC and CRs from UK (unless you apply some of his "quick fix" calculations first). It's useful, then, to have a list of recalculated CRs, because the real strength of what UK has (in my opinion) is that you can easily add abilities to characters, and know their exact CR and EL relative to their opponents. Wulf [/QUOTE]

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