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<blockquote data-quote="Matrix Sorcica" data-source="post: 1211560" data-attributes="member: 3547"><p>I'm sorry, that's just not good enough, IMO.</p><p></p><p>1. If I take my 10th lvl character from my campaign and put in your 10th lvl campaign, all the others will have double the equipment I do. Therefore, my CR 10 isn't equal to their CR 10.</p><p></p><p>One of the purposes of the entire CR system was, as far as I understand it, to accurately determine the power of a given creature, in relation to others.</p><p>Right?</p><p>This inconsistency with core rules break the system at mid lvls.</p><p></p><p>2. It is nice that you provide wealth and treasure tables in v4.1, but that really doesn't solve the problem that published adventures will need some work if the treasures shall be up to par.</p><p>If the characters are running around in Nightfang Spire, I want to be able to pass out the treasure listed without having to look up the new treasure for that CR and find the value of the listed treasure and add more and look that value up etc. At that point, a lot of the advantage in using a premade adventure becomes moot.</p><p></p><p>I still suggest using my method. And like I said, I don't think one can just use one or the other. At 10th lvl the Krusty PCs will have double the equipment core PCs got.</p><p></p><p>So what do you think?</p><p></p><p> <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile :)" data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Matrix Sorcica, post: 1211560, member: 3547"] I'm sorry, that's just not good enough, IMO. 1. If I take my 10th lvl character from my campaign and put in your 10th lvl campaign, all the others will have double the equipment I do. Therefore, my CR 10 isn't equal to their CR 10. One of the purposes of the entire CR system was, as far as I understand it, to accurately determine the power of a given creature, in relation to others. Right? This inconsistency with core rules break the system at mid lvls. 2. It is nice that you provide wealth and treasure tables in v4.1, but that really doesn't solve the problem that published adventures will need some work if the treasures shall be up to par. If the characters are running around in Nightfang Spire, I want to be able to pass out the treasure listed without having to look up the new treasure for that CR and find the value of the listed treasure and add more and look that value up etc. At that point, a lot of the advantage in using a premade adventure becomes moot. I still suggest using my method. And like I said, I don't think one can just use one or the other. At 10th lvl the Krusty PCs will have double the equipment core PCs got. So what do you think? :) [/QUOTE]
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