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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Matrix Sorcica" data-source="post: 1220739" data-attributes="member: 3547">Sorcica confusedHi Krust!I was designing an encounter and in the process got a bit confused. I hope you can help me out and explain what (if anything) I'm doing wrong.Okay, the encounter is a 13th lvl vampire wizard. Since he's a real baddie, he has PC equipment.I won't be using the silver rule, therefore 1 lvl = +1 CR straight, right?So he's CR 13 + 7.075 (vampire) = CR 20.075. So far, so good.Now for the golden rule, which is still to be applied, since the guy's not a PC.Value of wizard HD: 1 - 0.2 (wealth) - 0.44 (spellcasting) - 0.05 (bonus feats) =  CR 0.3113 * 0.31 = 4,03Golden rule 20.075 - 8.06 = 12.015 (divide by 2) = 6.0075 + 8.06 = 14.0675 = CR 14.So this guy gets +1 CR for being vampire or what?If my mistake is that the wizard really is 1.23/lvl, then one really can't use step 1 in v.4 that states that 1 PC lvl = 0.8 CR.BTW, using 1.23 would make him CR 18 (and CR 15 with the silver rule).Is this something that's a bug in applying templates to class-based creatures or is it no problem at all?Edit: Or is the problem that the golden rule should not be applied to class lvls? Seems like this, otherwise all the classes will be more or less screwed up.So maybe it should be CR 13 and then account for the golden rule by only applying half the vampire's CR modifier (which would make him CR 16)? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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