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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 1238215" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi ciaran mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Good point. I'll add that into v4.2 (same for Lich too)Well I would certainly modify the characters ECL to compensate, but I certainly wouldn't let them re-choose another ability score.I disagree. I would say those Constitution Ability Score points are lost for good, except for very rare cases whereby a Template actually imposed a negative ECL penalty.Take your example of the character with Con 100. Becoming a vampire would actually impose a negative penalty -10 for Con loss; +7 for Vampire Template (Net loss -3). I think it would be up to the DM to address this (albeit very unlikely) situation.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 1238215, member: 326"] Hi ciaran mate! :) Good point. I'll add that into v4.2 (same for Lich too) Well I would certainly modify the characters ECL to compensate, but I certainly wouldn't let them re-choose another ability score. I disagree. I would say those Constitution Ability Score points are lost for good, except for very rare cases whereby a Template actually imposed a negative ECL penalty. Take your example of the character with Con 100. Becoming a vampire would actually impose a negative penalty -10 for Con loss; +7 for Vampire Template (Net loss -3). I think it would be up to the DM to address this (albeit very unlikely) situation. [/QUOTE]

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