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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Wulf Ratbane" data-source="post: 1241317" data-attributes="member: 94">Hmmm... I suppose it is my "scientific method" getting the better of me.Ability scores correlate directly to CR. You should include them. They are applicable outside of the framework of character classes-- and the character classes is what the Silver Rule is attempting to compensate for.The "Silver Rule" is based on a lot of arbitrary calculations that for some reason didn't make it into the rest of the CR factors-- you can't go into the full list of CR factors and build a "cleric," for example; the only place where this information exists is in the Design Parameters section. I want to know where the figure "Hit Dice: d4 = CR +0.083" comes from. Accuracy down to the thousandth decimal point? And I hate that this section "averages" the cost of abilities across 20 character levels. You don't "average" the cost of a feat across the first 20 Hit Dice for creatures... And so on.So basically, it seems you're piling assumptions on top of assumptions and then making a calculation afterwards to make all the data "fit." It just doesn't smell right and doesn't pass the scientific method.If I have a party of all clerics, does that mean that I need to adjust the Silver Rule to determine this party's "true" EL? What if they are all rogues? The Silver Rule would make a given EL even harder on rogues. Is that level of "accuracy" necessary? No.The only character-class assumption that should be made is 1 Character Level = 1 CR. It is one of the founding "theses" of the entire system. Why you would make that assumption up front, then go on to completely disprove it doesn't make any sense. Anyhow, my opinion is that the system is stronger without it. UK knows I intend to use his EXCELLENT work (let's remind everyone that I LOVE it) in one of my own products, but the Silver Rule won't be making the cut. It pretends to present accuracy, but instead all it does is inject mathematical uncertainty and cut the legs out from under one of the starting premises.Wulf</blockquote>

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