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<blockquote data-quote="Upper_Krust" data-source="post: 1270420" data-attributes="member: 326">Hi Wulf mate! <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile&nbsp; &nbsp; :)"&nbsp; data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I understand.I must admit that I haven't really had a chance to fully read over the document (lately anyway). But I will do so before I post it in these boards.&nbsp;Well if you mean core as in official rules then there is no formula......if you mean core as in Levels 1-20 then I have posted the Treasure formula (earlier today):(90*CR+1*CR) +30&nbsp;That was Anubis idea as well. However as I see it this makes no actual difference. He claimed that it leads to disproportionate Treasure if the CRs are of the upper band of a given EL (for Monsters) and of a lower band the same EL for PCs. But this actually evens out since PCs of a high band facing monsters of a low band will vice versa get less.Single Orc (CR 2/3) Treasure = 90 gp each (12 = 1080gp)Single CR 8 Monster Treasure = 6510 gpThats because you have the wrong Table (at least the Treasure portion is wrong). I only worked out the Treasure equation last night, so your prototype v5 won't have it. Here is the amended Table.Table 2-6: WealthLevel/ECL/CR&nbsp; &nbsp; PC Wealth&nbsp; &nbsp; NPC Wealth&nbsp; &nbsp; Treasure1&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2102&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 800&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 200&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5703&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2700&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 675&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11104&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6400&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1600&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18305&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12,500&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 3125&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 27306&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 21,600&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 5400&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 38107&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 34,300&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 8575&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 50708&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 51,200&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12,800&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 65109&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 72,900&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18,225&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 813010&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 100,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 25,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 993011&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 133,100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 33,275&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 11,91012&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 172,800&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 43,200&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 14,07013&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 219,700&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 54,925&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 16,41014&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 274,400&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 68,600&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 18,93015&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 337.500&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 84,375&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 21,63016&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 409,600&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 102,400&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 24,51017&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 491,300&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 122,825&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 27,54018&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 583,200&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 145,800&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 30,81019&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 685,900&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 171,475&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 34,23020&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 800,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 200,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 37,83021&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 926,100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 231,525&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 41,61022&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1,064,800&nbsp; &nbsp; 266,200&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 45,570&nbsp; &nbsp; 23&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1,216,700&nbsp; &nbsp; 304,175&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 49,71024&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1,382,400&nbsp; &nbsp; 345,600&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 54,03025&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1,562,500&nbsp; &nbsp; 390,625&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 58,53026&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1,757,600&nbsp; &nbsp; 439,400&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 63,21027&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 1,968,300&nbsp; &nbsp; 492,075&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 68,07028&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2,195,200&nbsp; &nbsp; 548,800&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 73,11029&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2,438,900&nbsp; &nbsp; 609,725&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 78,33030&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 2,700,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 675,000&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 83,73040&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 6,400,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 1,600,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 147,63050&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 12,500,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 3,125,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 229,53060&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 21,600,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 5,400,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 329,43070&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 34,300,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 8,575,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 447,33080&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 51,200,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 12,800,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 583,23090&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 72,900,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 18,225,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 737,100100&nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; &nbsp; 100,000,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 25,000,000&nbsp; &nbsp; 909,030Anubis idea was to use the average between CRs of a given EL.Thats an interesting point, however are you saying a monster should possess less treasure depending on the circumstances surrounding its defeat - I am not so sure thats right.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Upper_Krust, post: 1270420, member: 326"] Hi Wulf mate! :) I understand. I must admit that I haven't really had a chance to fully read over the document (lately anyway). But I will do so before I post it in these boards. Well if you mean core as in official rules then there is no formula... ...if you mean core as in Levels 1-20 then I have posted the Treasure formula (earlier today): (90*CR+1*CR) +30 That was Anubis idea as well. However as I see it this makes no actual difference. He claimed that it leads to disproportionate Treasure if the CRs are of the upper band of a given EL (for Monsters) and of a lower band the same EL for PCs. But this actually evens out since PCs of a high band facing monsters of a low band will vice versa get less. Single Orc (CR 2/3) Treasure = 90 gp each (12 = 1080gp) Single CR 8 Monster Treasure = 6510 gp Thats because you have the wrong Table (at least the Treasure portion is wrong). I only worked out the Treasure equation last night, so your prototype v5 won't have it. Here is the amended Table. Table 2-6: Wealth Level/ECL/CR PC Wealth NPC Wealth Treasure 1 100 25 210 2 800 200 570 3 2700 675 1110 4 6400 1600 1830 5 12,500 3125 2730 6 21,600 5400 3810 7 34,300 8575 5070 8 51,200 12,800 6510 9 72,900 18,225 8130 10 100,000 25,000 9930 11 133,100 33,275 11,910 12 172,800 43,200 14,070 13 219,700 54,925 16,410 14 274,400 68,600 18,930 15 337.500 84,375 21,630 16 409,600 102,400 24,510 17 491,300 122,825 27,540 18 583,200 145,800 30,810 19 685,900 171,475 34,230 20 800,000 200,000 37,830 21 926,100 231,525 41,610 22 1,064,800 266,200 45,570 23 1,216,700 304,175 49,710 24 1,382,400 345,600 54,030 25 1,562,500 390,625 58,530 26 1,757,600 439,400 63,210 27 1,968,300 492,075 68,070 28 2,195,200 548,800 73,110 29 2,438,900 609,725 78,330 30 2,700,000 675,000 83,730 40 6,400,000 1,600,000 147,630 50 12,500,000 3,125,000 229,530 60 21,600,000 5,400,000 329,430 70 34,300,000 8,575,000 447,330 80 51,200,000 12,800,000 583,230 90 72,900,000 18,225,000 737,100 100 100,000,000 25,000,000 909,030 Anubis idea was to use the average between CRs of a given EL. Thats an interesting point, however are you saying a monster should possess less treasure depending on the circumstances surrounding its defeat - I am not so sure thats right. [/QUOTE]

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