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<blockquote data-quote="Cheiromancer" data-source="post: 1271004" data-attributes="member: 141">Can you assign treasure based on the 4-person party for which something is a moderate challenge?&nbsp; The level of the party can be plugged into 90*level*(level+1)+30 to get the standard value of an encounter of that level.For example, if you have a first level party (standard point buy), their total CR is 8, making it EL 13, but then subtract 4 (4 members in the party) and the actual EL is 9. A moderate encounter for them is four less than their EL, so EL 5.&nbsp; If a first level party is going to accumulate 2800 gp over 13.333 moderate encounters, each such encounter has to be worth 210 gp, so that's what an EL 5 is worth.An EL 16 encounter is an appropriate encounter for an EL 20 party.&nbsp; For example 4 13th level characters (standard point buy) have a total CR of 56 or an EL of 24.&nbsp; Subtract 4 because the party has 4 members, and the LE is 20.&nbsp; Perfect!The treasure for a moderate encounter for 13th level party of 4 is 16,410 gp.&nbsp; So that is what an EL 16 encounter should be worth.And so on.I'm sure that if I were clever I could make a spreadsheet that will calculate these values.&nbsp; But first, do you see anything wrong with this procedure?[edit]Ok.&nbsp; Calculating from the equations (instead of the charts) I get a slightly different set of values.&nbsp; But this is what the described method yields for expected treasure for an encounter of a given EL:EL. . . . . Treasure (gp)1. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 302. . . . . .50.250580263. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 82.720779394. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 133.19708655. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 2106. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 325.05960187. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 495.44155888. . . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 745.51105549. . . . . .111010. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 1638.35296811. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 2400.88311812. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 3497.48964113. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 507014. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 7319.64099615. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 10531.7662416. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 15110.849417. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 2163018. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 30901.0222319. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 44073.5324720. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 62775.1792821. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 8931022. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 126939.005423. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 180277.064924. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 255854.280525. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 36291026. . . . .&nbsp; &nbsp; 514515.854727. . . . .729164.129928. . . . .1033014.24929. . . . .146307030. . . . .2071673.085etc.The gp value is given by the treasure formula with 2^((EL-1)/4) in place of the level.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cheiromancer, post: 1271004, member: 141"] Can you assign treasure based on the 4-person party for which something is a moderate challenge? The level of the party can be plugged into 90*level*(level+1)+30 to get the standard value of an encounter of that level. For example, if you have a first level party (standard point buy), their total CR is 8, making it EL 13, but then subtract 4 (4 members in the party) and the actual EL is 9. A moderate encounter for them is four less than their EL, so EL 5. If a first level party is going to accumulate 2800 gp over 13.333 moderate encounters, each such encounter has to be worth 210 gp, so that's what an EL 5 is worth. An EL 16 encounter is an appropriate encounter for an EL 20 party. For example 4 13th level characters (standard point buy) have a total CR of 56 or an EL of 24. Subtract 4 because the party has 4 members, and the LE is 20. Perfect! The treasure for a moderate encounter for 13th level party of 4 is 16,410 gp. So that is what an EL 16 encounter should be worth. And so on. I'm sure that if I were clever I could make a spreadsheet that will calculate these values. But first, do you see anything wrong with this procedure? [edit] Ok. Calculating from the equations (instead of the charts) I get a slightly different set of values. But this is what the described method yields for expected treasure for an encounter of a given EL: EL. . . . . Treasure (gp) 1. . . . . . 30 2. . . . . .50.25058026 3. . . . . . 82.72077939 4. . . . . . 133.1970865 5. . . . . . 210 6. . . . . . 325.0596018 7. . . . . . 495.4415588 8. . . . . . 745.5110554 9. . . . . .1110 10. . . . . 1638.352968 11. . . . . 2400.883118 12. . . . . 3497.489641 13. . . . . 5070 14. . . . . 7319.640996 15. . . . . 10531.76624 16. . . . . 15110.8494 17. . . . . 21630 18. . . . . 30901.02223 19. . . . . 44073.53247 20. . . . . 62775.17928 21. . . . . 89310 22. . . . . 126939.0054 23. . . . . 180277.0649 24. . . . . 255854.2805 25. . . . . 362910 26. . . . . 514515.8547 27. . . . .729164.1299 28. . . . .1033014.249 29. . . . .1463070 30. . . . .2071673.085 etc. The gp value is given by the treasure formula with 2^((EL-1)/4) in place of the level. [/QUOTE]

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