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Message: <blockquote data-quote="CRGreathouse" data-source="post: 1276744" data-attributes="member: 474">So... the point of D&D isn't to simulate a world and have fun, it's to divide treasure?  That seems backward to me.U_K: Yes, I would support a system like your 'treasure by CR' system, though I might use a different formula.  I agree with your basic premise.As U_K mentioned above, his most recent version (v.5) shows hobgoblins as CR 1.25, EL 2.Wait, hobgoblins can have different amounts of treasure based on how many there are in their group, but not on how powerful the party is?  Now that's odd logic.  Neither one makes logical sense, and both are designed to improve game balance (albeit inelegantly, in my opinion).The equations can be used to design a system without being used in the final system.  Basic equations guide base attack and base saves, bigger equations guide bonus spells by ability scores and XP charts, and bigger ones yet cover Str lifting tables and XP per monster.  None of these need to be understood to play the game... they're just charts to most players.Let the people with college math degrees figure out the best formulas, if they're too complicated.  Just follow their charts.</blockquote>