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<blockquote data-quote="Hawken" data-source="post: 4576027" data-attributes="member: 23619">I'm a PC in a game. My character is running away from a Bone Devil. The DM has it use its Wall of Ice to entrap my character in a cylindrical wall of ice--as she is running, with only a 5' diameter space (basically, the square my character was in) inside the wall of ice. My character had initiative and acted first. There were other characters involved meleeing the bone devil, yet it didn't suffer any AoOs from using the WoI on my character either. What I don't get is how can someone create a wall of ice to catch someone like that? The DM said that the Reflex save the spell allows wasn't allowed because he was creating the wall around my character, not in the space my character occupied. Next round, I use Alter Self to change into an Ice Mephit and fly up out of the ice cylinder (20' high only). As soon as I do, that same round, he has the devil create another wall of ice, on top of the ice cylinder except this is more of a hollow globe 'anchored' to the top of the cylinder previously created.I'm just not getting how this could even be possible by even the most liberal interpretations of the Wall of Ice spell. My thinking is that once the round starts, I have initiative, I start running, the ice devil starts casting. How is he going to know where I'm going to end up to cast the spell? Incidentally, my character is protected against Detect Thoughts so it couldn't read her mind to figure out where she was going precisely enough to do what he had it do. Thoughts?</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Hawken, post: 4576027, member: 23619"] I'm a PC in a game. My character is running away from a Bone Devil. The DM has it use its Wall of Ice to entrap my character in a cylindrical wall of ice--as she is running, with only a 5' diameter space (basically, the square my character was in) inside the wall of ice. My character had initiative and acted first. There were other characters involved meleeing the bone devil, yet it didn't suffer any AoOs from using the WoI on my character either. What I don't get is how can someone create a wall of ice to catch someone like that? The DM said that the Reflex save the spell allows wasn't allowed because he was creating the wall around my character, not in the space my character occupied. Next round, I use Alter Self to change into an Ice Mephit and fly up out of the ice cylinder (20' high only). As soon as I do, that same round, he has the devil create another wall of ice, on top of the ice cylinder except this is more of a hollow globe 'anchored' to the top of the cylinder previously created. I'm just not getting how this could even be possible by even the most liberal interpretations of the Wall of Ice spell. My thinking is that once the round starts, I have initiative, I start running, the ice devil starts casting. How is he going to know where I'm going to end up to cast the spell? Incidentally, my character is protected against Detect Thoughts so it couldn't read her mind to figure out where she was going precisely enough to do what he had it do. Thoughts? [/QUOTE]

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