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<blockquote data-quote="frankthedm" data-source="post: 4584800" data-attributes="member: 1164"><a href="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/188877-placing-wall-fire.html" target="_blank">Well, the rules are kinda quiet when it comes to walls.</a> <img src="http://www.enworld.org/forum/images/smilies/paranoid.png"&nbsp; class="smilie" loading="lazy" alt=":uhoh:" title="Paranoid&nbsp; &nbsp; :uhoh:" data-shortname=":uhoh:" /> To me a straight wall can be worked like a line, though it seems a wall with a radius may be caught&nbsp; by the rules for radial areas. But that doesn't work well for wall of ice at certain caster levels{noted above]&nbsp; Area&nbsp; Some spells affect an area. Sometimes a spell description specifies a specially defined area, but usually an area falls into one of the categories defined below. Regardless of the shape of the area, you select the point where the spell originates, but otherwise you don’t control which creatures or objects the spell affects. The point of origin of a spell is always a grid intersection. When determining whether a given creature is within the area of a spell, count out the distance from the point of origin in squares just as you do when moving a character or when determining the range for a ranged attack. The only difference is that instead of counting from the center of one square to the center of the next, you count from intersection to intersection Yes, if the DM really felt the outermost edge counted as adjacent.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="frankthedm, post: 4584800, member: 1164"] [URL="http://www.enworld.org/forum/d-d-3rd-edition-rules/188877-placing-wall-fire.html"]Well, the rules are kinda quiet when it comes to walls.[/URL] :uhoh: To me a straight wall can be worked like a line, though it seems a wall with a radius may be caught by the rules for radial areas. But that doesn't work well for wall of ice at certain caster levels{noted above][SIZE=1] [B]Area[/B][/SIZE] [SIZE=1]Some spells affect an area. Sometimes a spell description specifies a specially defined area, but usually an area falls into one of the categories defined below. [/SIZE][SIZE=1] Regardless of the shape of the area, you select the point where the spell originates, but otherwise you don’t control which creatures or objects the spell affects. [SIZE=3]The point of origin of a spell is always a grid intersection.[/SIZE] When determining whether a given creature is within the area of a spell, count out the distance from the point of origin in squares just as you do when moving a character or when determining the range for a ranged attack. The only difference is that instead of counting from the center of one square to the center of the next, you count from intersection to intersection [/SIZE]Yes, if the DM really felt the outermost edge counted as adjacent. [/QUOTE]

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