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<blockquote data-quote="irdeggman" data-source="post: 4585823" data-attributes="member: 16285">Again - this does not apply when determining if an existing rule exists and how it applies.The PHB is very clear (and you can check the FAQ and even CustServ if you desire) all sources will tell you that no two characters have the same intitiave.3.5 FAQ pg Now saying the DM is always right is completely different than saying the rules say such and such.The DM is always right, but the rules may say something else.Since this is a rules board my answers are based on what the rules say not on what the DM can rule for his game.I have provided cited references that clearly point out &quot;per the rules&quot; that no two characters ahve the same intitiave and that all of a character's actions are resolved on his turn in the initiative order.There are times when external effects may not be controlled by a character - but the OP's situation was clearly not one.Casting a spell - is always resolved on the spellcser's turn in the initiative order (with the exception for immediate actions - but no where was it stated that immediate actions were part of the situation in question).Movement - a character's movement is resolved on his turn in the initiative order. Since movement is either a move action, a standard action or a full round action and all three are resolved on that character's turn in the initiative order.So &quot;per the rules&quot; (not per DM fiat) the situation as explained by the OP should not have been allowed to happen.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="irdeggman, post: 4585823, member: 16285"] Again - this does not apply when determining if an existing rule exists and how it applies. The PHB is very clear (and you can check the FAQ and even CustServ if you desire) all sources will tell you that no two characters have the same intitiave. 3.5 FAQ pg Now saying the DM is always right is completely different than saying the rules say such and such. The DM is always right, but the rules may say something else. Since this is a rules board my answers are based on what the rules say not on what the DM can rule for his game. I have provided cited references that clearly point out "per the rules" that no two characters ahve the same intitiave and that all of a character's actions are resolved on his turn in the initiative order. There are times when external effects may not be controlled by a character - but the OP's situation was clearly not one. Casting a spell - is always resolved on the spellcser's turn in the initiative order (with the exception for immediate actions - but no where was it stated that immediate actions were part of the situation in question). Movement - a character's movement is resolved on his turn in the initiative order. Since movement is either a move action, a standard action or a full round action and all three are resolved on that character's turn in the initiative order. So "per the rules" (not per DM fiat) the situation as explained by the OP should not have been allowed to happen. [/QUOTE]

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