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Message: <blockquote data-quote="The Sigil" data-source="post: 194311" data-attributes="member: 2013">Thanks, Aggemam.  Your quote tends to reinforce my belief.. that indeed, the "adamantine" in question was DROW adamantine.  Presumably dwarves and others who work adamantine may have different methods.  Either way, it's nice to have the quote.FWIW, I looked up the weight of rock (granite, quartz, limestone, pumice, shale) and compared to the weight of iron.  Depending on the rock, it's roughly one-half to one-fourth the weight of iron.  From that I can give a range of weights for adamantite (ore) - adamantium weighs as much as lighter rock and half as much as heavier rock.... here is a revised summary of points.1.) "ADAMANTITE" is the raw ore. 2.) "ADAMANTIUM" is the pure metal extracted from the ore.  It is softer than the alloy adamantine but has a very high melting point - say, 1500 F (higher than that of steel).3.) "ADAMANTINE" is the alloy, consisting of 1/3 adamantium and 2/3 iron (perhaps with trace amounts of lead or tin or carbon or whatever else - the proportions of trace elements should be the carefully-guarded secret).   Its melting point is still higher than adamantium.4.) Adamantine (the alloy) weighs about 375 pounds per cubic foot. 5.) Adamantium (the pure metal) weighs about 125 pounds per cubic foot (iron weighs about 500 pounds per cubic foot) and is worth about 5,000 gp per pound.6.) Adamantite (the ore) weighs between 125 pounds and 250 pounds per cubic foot (rock tends to weigh about 1/4 to 1/2 as much as iron... or about one to two times the weight of pure adamantium, depending on the rock).  Its high-end value per pound is 5,000 gp times the purity of the ore (an ore that is 10% adamantium would be worth about 500 gp per pound), for light rocks and low-end value per pound is 2,500 gp times the purity of the ore (for heavy rocks).7.) Adamantine should be worth at least 1,700 gp per pound (1/3 of 5,000 gp/pound, rounded) based on the value of the material only... you could argue that it should be more based on the utility inherent in the crafted item or less based on the fact that it's extremely hard to re-work... harder to re-work than adamantite, so adamantite is more valuable to make a new item. I would suggest that these are more or less balanced and that the value remain around 1,700 gp per pound. 8.) Armor made of Adamantine should be ten times as expensive as the SRD and DMG suggest. Colorwise, I would suggest that adamantite be given the sheen/shininess of burnished silver (very shiny) but is a darker color - closer to the deep gray of graphite. That's a matter of personal taste only - YMMV.  If anyone cares by this point. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f600.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":D" title="Big grin    :D"  data-smilie="8"data-shortname=":D" />  I intend to adopt this for use in my own campaign, that's for sure.  But then, it's not surprising, since I was the one making all the guesses so of course I believe me. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink    ;)"  data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />--The Sigil</blockquote>

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