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<blockquote data-quote="Vampersan" data-source="post: 8571058" data-attributes="member: 7032622"><p><strong>Arcane Appropriation Invocation</strong></p><p><em>Prerequisite</em>: 5th level </p><p>"When you use a magic item, you ignore any requirements related to class, culture, heritage, or level."</p><p></p><p>So, this invocation intrigues me quite a bit. On the surface, it doesn't seem too overly powerful, since there's really not a lot of (base) magic items that have any of the described restrictions. But, how does this invocation interact with scrolls?</p><p></p><p>Scrolls are magic items by RAW, and they are generally restricted to a certain spellcasting class. And while not generally restricted by level (given that Level Up allows you to cast spells from scrolls that are beyond the level you can cast), attempting to cast beyond your level carries the risk of expending the spell without any affect.</p><p></p><p>Does Arcane Appropriation allow Warlocks to cast spells from any scroll, regardless of whether it's a Wizard, Druid, Herald, etc spell on the scroll? And as a secondary concern, does it allow a Warlock to ignore the risk that normally comes with casting a spell that is beyond their current level?</p><p></p><p>I'm inclined to believe that, RAW, it does allow a Warlock to cast virtually any spell they come across in scroll form. That <strong><em>would </em></strong>considerably boost the value of this invocation if true, however, and the power any Warlock that selected it, so it I'm still a bit conflicted as to whether this was intended or not, or if I'm misreading it. I don't think it would allow such a Warlock to ignore the risk of casting a spell beyond their current level, however, as that seems more like it would be a RAI ruling since it doesn't explicitly state that.</p><p></p><p>If a designer could step in and clarify whether is actually true, I would appreciate it. Or if anyone wants to hazard a guess of their own? ^.^</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Vampersan, post: 8571058, member: 7032622"] [B]Arcane Appropriation Invocation[/B] [I]Prerequisite[/I]: 5th level "When you use a magic item, you ignore any requirements related to class, culture, heritage, or level." So, this invocation intrigues me quite a bit. On the surface, it doesn't seem too overly powerful, since there's really not a lot of (base) magic items that have any of the described restrictions. But, how does this invocation interact with scrolls? Scrolls are magic items by RAW, and they are generally restricted to a certain spellcasting class. And while not generally restricted by level (given that Level Up allows you to cast spells from scrolls that are beyond the level you can cast), attempting to cast beyond your level carries the risk of expending the spell without any affect. Does Arcane Appropriation allow Warlocks to cast spells from any scroll, regardless of whether it's a Wizard, Druid, Herald, etc spell on the scroll? And as a secondary concern, does it allow a Warlock to ignore the risk that normally comes with casting a spell that is beyond their current level? I'm inclined to believe that, RAW, it does allow a Warlock to cast virtually any spell they come across in scroll form. That [B][I]would [/I][/B]considerably boost the value of this invocation if true, however, and the power any Warlock that selected it, so it I'm still a bit conflicted as to whether this was intended or not, or if I'm misreading it. I don't think it would allow such a Warlock to ignore the risk of casting a spell beyond their current level, however, as that seems more like it would be a RAI ruling since it doesn't explicitly state that. If a designer could step in and clarify whether is actually true, I would appreciate it. Or if anyone wants to hazard a guess of their own? ^.^ [/QUOTE]
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