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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Insight" data-source="post: 1991951" data-attributes="member: 11437">I noticed that according to the Vampire template in 3.5 (and probably 3.0), there is no reason other than healing damage that a Vampire would need to drink blood.  I understand that, because these are normally applied to foes, they don't need a good reason, but you could potentially have a PC with this template, and there needs to be a better reason for them to drain blood than just for healing from combat.  That just doesn't jive with the various vampire legends out there.  Vampires tend to need to feed over time, not just due to fighting.I like the concept you mentioned about Vampires continually losing HP and needing to feed to restore the lost points.  That makes sense to me, and is similar to what I was thinking of introducing in my game to deal with the problem mentioned above.One thing you could do to deal with the 'healing too fast' problem is to put a cap on how much can be drained in one round, or with one action.  You could even have it be different depending on whether you took a Standard Action for the drain (thus not provoking AoO) or a Full Round Action (and provoking if applicable).Since I have not seen Fang & Fury, I can't really comment on the rest of your ideas for conversion, though I would like to point out that I don't think a Vampire's Con Drain is permanent, at least it shouldn't be.  As you stated already, since it is blood drain, and humanoids regenerate their blood supply, anything based on losing blood should be temporary.  I can kinda see the supernatural aspect of a sort of unnatural wound or something, but it seems a bit of a stretch that this sort of thing would be permanent.  Obviously, the energy drain thing has a chance to be permanent if the subject fails a save.  Note: I don't really understand why Vampires have both Con Drain and Energy Drain.  Where is this Energy Drain coming from?  In previous editions of the game, several Undead had this Energy Drain ability, but this was before the ability drain powers were brought into 3.x.  Energy Drain was all you had prior to 3rd Ed.  Not sure why Vampires still have this ability, since they already have the Con Drain.Anyway, sorry to carry the discussion a bit off topic there, but since this is a Vampire thread... Figured I would ask anyway.</blockquote>

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