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<blockquote data-quote="Hypersmurf" data-source="post: 1622669" data-attributes="member: 1656"><p>From the Monster Manual:</p><p><em>Creatures do not receive additional attacks from a high base attack bonus when using natural weapons.</em></p><p></p><p>I presume you don't want to argue that your monk can only attack once in a round with his unarmed strike?</p><p></p><p>From the FAQ update today:</p><p><em>It might seem a tad strange that you cannot use a natural</em></p><p><em>weapon, such as a slam or a claw when you can use a monk</em></p><p><em>weapon such as a sai or a kama. However, natural weaponry</em></p><p><em>isn’t as handy as manufactured weaponry. You never get extra</em></p><p><em>attacks from a high base attack bonus with natural weaponry,</em></p><p><em>and the monk’s flurry ability is another way to get extra attacks</em></p><p><em>from your base attack bonus. <strong>It’s worth noting here that a</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>vampire monk using its unarmed strike ability is not using its</strong></em></p><p><em><strong>slam attack and cannot drain energy.</strong></em></p><p></p><p>The monk's fists count as natural weapons for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve natural weapons.</p><p></p><p>The energy drain is not a spell or effect that enhances or improves a natural weapon; it is something that occurs when a strike with a natural weapon is made.</p><p></p><p>A vampire monk can slam once and deal 1d6 damage plus energy drain. Or he can flurry and use three unarmed strikes that deal 1d8 damage with no energy drain. Or he can not flurry, and use two unarmed strikes that deal 1d8 damage with no energy drain, plus a slam as a secondary natural weapon at -5 that deals 1d6 damage plus energy drain.</p><p></p><p>-Hyp.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Hypersmurf, post: 1622669, member: 1656"] From the Monster Manual: [i]Creatures do not receive additional attacks from a high base attack bonus when using natural weapons.[/i] I presume you don't want to argue that your monk can only attack once in a round with his unarmed strike? From the FAQ update today: [i]It might seem a tad strange that you cannot use a natural weapon, such as a slam or a claw when you can use a monk weapon such as a sai or a kama. However, natural weaponry isn’t as handy as manufactured weaponry. You never get extra attacks from a high base attack bonus with natural weaponry, and the monk’s flurry ability is another way to get extra attacks from your base attack bonus. [b]It’s worth noting here that a vampire monk using its unarmed strike ability is not using its slam attack and cannot drain energy.[/b][/i] The monk's fists count as natural weapons for the purpose of spells and effects that enhance or improve natural weapons. The energy drain is not a spell or effect that enhances or improves a natural weapon; it is something that occurs when a strike with a natural weapon is made. A vampire monk can slam once and deal 1d6 damage plus energy drain. Or he can flurry and use three unarmed strikes that deal 1d8 damage with no energy drain. Or he can not flurry, and use two unarmed strikes that deal 1d8 damage with no energy drain, plus a slam as a secondary natural weapon at -5 that deals 1d6 damage plus energy drain. -Hyp. [/QUOTE]
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