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Message: <blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5539593" data-attributes="member: 82106">Right, which is EXACTLY why 4e calls the skill 'Perception' and not 'Listen' or 'Spot Hidden', etc. I can't think of any reason why a weak vampire couldn't work either. Just because some vampire in some movie or book happens to be extraordinarily strong doesn't mean it has to be true for all of them. It could also be explained by say "I refrain from drinking my fill of human blood, therefor I am weak." etc. Obviously there are going to be some people that have a problem coming up with a background/fluff that works well with their character, but this is not a vampire issue. At best you might complain WotC could give more ideas on that score, but actually they do a pretty good job.</blockquote>