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<blockquote data-quote="GMforPowergamers" data-source="post: 5540524" data-attributes="member: 67338">Ok I had a (started at lv 1) swordmag half elf who multi into wizard ( scorch burst and magic missle @1st) but around 12th or 13 th level when I paragon Multi class&nbsp; these guys from the dms home game&nbsp; started playing... Even driving away 1 newish guy and his girlfriend and they all do char op... I was told I was a sub opt defender and a piss poor controller too. After 2 levels of being told I was feed up and went to my flgs manager who told me the 4 in question are &quot; putting his son through collage&quot; so he didn't want to say anything... So we started our own lv 1 Lfr where I played my human assassin&nbsp; it went 3 games before one of the others showed up and after his&nbsp; 1 time at level 2 with a two axe weding ranger calling as much damage as the rest of us put together on Avg we quit Lfr and only do home games nowSo Lfr was just to op based( atleast around here) and&nbsp; 2 of the last 3 cons we went to had people &quot;helping&quot; us op our characters... Even though o do theory craft on the op board I do not ever want to play those builds...Now the vamp thing is hitting the same cord, don't play x in my group because of y</blockquote>

[QUOTE="GMforPowergamers, post: 5540524, member: 67338"] Ok I had a (started at lv 1) swordmag half elf who multi into wizard ( scorch burst and magic missle @1st) but around 12th or 13 th level when I paragon Multi class these guys from the dms home game started playing... Even driving away 1 newish guy and his girlfriend and they all do char op... I was told I was a sub opt defender and a piss poor controller too. After 2 levels of being told I was feed up and went to my flgs manager who told me the 4 in question are " putting his son through collage" so he didn't want to say anything... So we started our own lv 1 Lfr where I played my human assassin it went 3 games before one of the others showed up and after his 1 time at level 2 with a two axe weding ranger calling as much damage as the rest of us put together on Avg we quit Lfr and only do home games now So Lfr was just to op based( atleast around here) and 2 of the last 3 cons we went to had people "helping" us op our characters... Even though o do theory craft on the op board I do not ever want to play those builds... Now the vamp thing is hitting the same cord, don't play x in my group because of y [/QUOTE]

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