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<blockquote data-quote="AbdulAlhazred" data-source="post: 5557341" data-attributes="member: 82106">Well, it wouldn't make a huge difference since all the 'use a surge' powers are encounter powers or daily powers. It makes SOME difference since you're more likely to have the spare surges to use those powers/kickers. It won't boost your DPR incredibly though.The thing is vampires are fine in heroic tier. They can dish out a pretty fair amount of damage, and are quite accurate. They just lack a lot of ways to access the traditional optimizations that earlier classes use to crank that up. There aren't multi-attacks or minor action attack powers and you're using either a holy symbol or a ki focus, neither of which are known for having incredibly damage enhancing enchantments. You CAN optimize, but not a lot. Given you have very few power choices either you can't easily access swaps that would get you something extra. A half-elf can pick up Twin Strike of course, and using a ki focus you could use it fairly effectively, but that only gains you a little bit. Honestly my feeling is that for the most part vampire is more in line with the original intended power curve where there are some decent options but they just can't be piled one atop the other with multi-attack tricks to get DPR sky high. You'll note too that other Essential style strikers like the Slayer have some similar issues, though not to the same degree.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="AbdulAlhazred, post: 5557341, member: 82106"] Well, it wouldn't make a huge difference since all the 'use a surge' powers are encounter powers or daily powers. It makes SOME difference since you're more likely to have the spare surges to use those powers/kickers. It won't boost your DPR incredibly though. The thing is vampires are fine in heroic tier. They can dish out a pretty fair amount of damage, and are quite accurate. They just lack a lot of ways to access the traditional optimizations that earlier classes use to crank that up. There aren't multi-attacks or minor action attack powers and you're using either a holy symbol or a ki focus, neither of which are known for having incredibly damage enhancing enchantments. You CAN optimize, but not a lot. Given you have very few power choices either you can't easily access swaps that would get you something extra. A half-elf can pick up Twin Strike of course, and using a ki focus you could use it fairly effectively, but that only gains you a little bit. Honestly my feeling is that for the most part vampire is more in line with the original intended power curve where there are some decent options but they just can't be piled one atop the other with multi-attack tricks to get DPR sky high. You'll note too that other Essential style strikers like the Slayer have some similar issues, though not to the same degree. [/QUOTE]

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