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<blockquote data-quote="Aegeri" data-source="post: 5557950" data-attributes="member: 78116">This is actually rather trivial. Cunning stalker will 9/10 do the trick and enemies that group up are asking to be wrecked by controllers. Anything else there is flanking and status effects. Getting CA a lot of the time is actually pretty easy. It's also not like it makes a huge difference to them in the end. It's delicious icing on an incredibly delicious cake: Not a required part of abusing charging (just adds to it).Really the reason the slayer builds for charging is because they are strength/dex and have a stance for +2 accuracy on charging (which is where they get most of their DPR in reality - accuracy). The +2 accuracy, combined with +1 for charging is what makes it absurd. When you're getting 80%+ chances to hit and this is before any CA, you know there is trouble.&nbsp;Which is why they need much bigger bonuses! It's difficult to determine what the expected DPR the vampire should be doing is, but it is pretty clear now that when the vampire is failing to out-damage many non-strikers - there is a massive problem.Sadly even with the rules update coming, there isn't much hope this edition for fixing the problem with multiple attacks against single ones. It's a flaw that is baked into the system and would take a huge rewrite to fix. I would expect something to be done about twin strike, because it's a highlighted problem again and again (especially half-elven avengers pinching it to abuse crit fishing). Charging is something I hope will get a serious look at though.</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Aegeri, post: 5557950, member: 78116"] This is actually rather trivial. Cunning stalker will 9/10 do the trick and enemies that group up are asking to be wrecked by controllers. Anything else there is flanking and status effects. Getting CA a lot of the time is actually pretty easy. It's also not like it makes a huge difference to them in the end. It's delicious icing on an incredibly delicious cake: Not a required part of abusing charging (just adds to it). Really the reason the slayer builds for charging is because they are strength/dex and have a stance for +2 accuracy on charging (which is where they get most of their DPR in reality - accuracy). The +2 accuracy, combined with +1 for charging is what makes it absurd. When you're getting 80%+ chances to hit and this is before any CA, you know there is trouble. Which is why they need much bigger bonuses! It's difficult to determine what the expected DPR the vampire should be doing is, but it is pretty clear now that when the vampire is failing to out-damage many non-strikers - there is a massive problem. Sadly even with the rules update coming, there isn't much hope this edition for fixing the problem with multiple attacks against single ones. It's a flaw that is baked into the system and would take a huge rewrite to fix. I would expect something to be done about twin strike, because it's a highlighted problem again and again (especially half-elven avengers pinching it to abuse crit fishing). Charging is something I hope will get a serious look at though. [/QUOTE]

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