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<blockquote data-quote="Cabral" data-source="post: 2804444" data-attributes="member: 1193">So you mean, you're going to allow a vampire with a +6 BAB to make a +6 Slam/ +1 melee and then can choose flurry on top of that? Or that they get one +6 slam as normal and can flurry on top of that?No. Because, the shocking grasp is a touch attack and there are rules laid out for combining touch attacks and normal attacks. Energy drain, not being a touch attack, does not fall under this provisions.As a Side Note:The errata is silent ... so, if you think the books/errata override the FAQ, energy drain can be used with unarmed strikes. If the FAQ overrides printed material, then it can't. (My personal stance is (Books &lt; FAQ &lt; Errata &lt; FAQ concerning Errata &lt; My House Rules <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f609.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=";)" title="Wink&nbsp; &nbsp; ;)"&nbsp; data-smilie="2"data-shortname=";)" />)However, if a creature can make natural attacks in addition to manufactured weapons, a monk may do so. He can do so in addition to his flurry. (I may do this for vampires even though they cannot normally do this)</blockquote>

[QUOTE="Cabral, post: 2804444, member: 1193"] So you mean, you're going to allow a vampire with a +6 BAB to make a +6 Slam/ +1 melee and then can choose flurry on top of that? Or that they get one +6 slam as normal and can flurry on top of that? No. Because, the shocking grasp is a touch attack and there are rules laid out for combining touch attacks and normal attacks. Energy drain, not being a touch attack, does not fall under this provisions. As a Side Note: The errata is silent ... so, if you think the books/errata override the FAQ, energy drain can be used with unarmed strikes. If the FAQ overrides printed material, then it can't. (My personal stance is (Books < FAQ < Errata < FAQ concerning Errata < My House Rules ;)) However, if a creature can make natural attacks in addition to manufactured weapons, a monk may do so. He can do so in addition to his flurry. (I may do this for vampires even though they cannot normally do this) [/QUOTE]

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