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Message: <blockquote data-quote="reapersaurus" data-source="post: 629718" data-attributes="member: 1194">I'd be glad to discuss things rationally.Hell, I'd be overjoyed to actually be able to say what I want to say, since these questions are about MY character.No, Nik's not retarded, the loss of functioning is more a symbolic loss of humanity.I'm finishing work now, and will go home and re-read the Intelligence attribute, because I didn't come to the conclusions that Ash seems to hold about the Int attribute. I never realized it was that character-defining.If it is, I'll re-visit my attribute points. Vampire Hunters don;t all fight hand-to hand with vampires.In a strike-type team, you need people of various talents.I will be replying to Ash similarly re: his post.Well, I think your question comes from Ash misrepresenting the stats.Charisma is not all-important.In fact, in the V:tM rulebook, it explicitly describes under the Manipulation attribute that characters with high Manip scores can regularly get people to do what they want, even though they don't like them. (or something like that - that's all from memory)I don't see Nik as being a Charismatic, "you like me, you Really Like Me" guy.I don't see why Manipulation, Subterfuge, and Wits are nullified by having 1 dot in Int and Cha. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f615.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":confused:" title="Confused    :confused:"  data-smilie="5"data-shortname=":confused:" /> Does every character have to be the same light-and-bubbly, "You must love me" type?</blockquote>

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