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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Catulle" data-source="post: 755507" data-attributes="member: 9942">Yeah, I'm a little early and a lot underslept. The ferry was a lot easier coming back and the rugby kept traffic to a minimum. Yay!I think the post before this one illustrates quite well why a degree of filtering is useful in this, and other, examples... I'll do a little quoting, more as an academic exercise in showing how the opposite viewpoint might have been picked up from the same sources (rather than in the interests of prolonging debate)."in a formal environment"In a formal environment, the same rules are rarely, if ever, applied to the company (guests) and the staff (people being paid to attend) equally. Most everybody would realise that, especially those with relevent etiquette skills, and the fact that that was not being observed could lead to the deduction that this was not a strict formal affair."but Cate never answered either of them"Again, this presupposes formality. If the company are talking at length with the staff on non-superficial topics, that formality really goes out of the window. Likewise, if one is to assume formality, for a member of staff to ignore a polite request by a guest is quite the faux pas in and of itself.Suede, khakis and cardigans are not formalwear...To assume formality in an informal setting is standoffish (a la Nathaniel)To assume informality in a formal setting is rude.Note that Valentine called her 'Cate' as well...The etiquette skill isn't just about formal etiquette, it's the ability to 'get by' (not necessarily excel) in just about any social situation. The emphasis of the skill represents the culture you're most familiar with (examples include Kindred Society, Formal Dinners, Business and Street Culture).Of course, when I post, I don't have the time to quote/add each and every sentence spoken to an NPC for fear of clogging - it seems reasonable to assume that the socially-clued-in aren't ignoring anybody (unless indicated that they are), and prevents, well, this kind of circular debate. If it looks unclear, a note here should clear it up.Now, I'd think that we'd be best off keeping it in mind that the characters' capabilities can (and will) exceed our own (particularly in my case, believe me) and I'd certainly be much more comfortable with a more forgiving environment. That said, I'll seek to clarify whenever a question is raised and try to keep the discord to a minimum.Regards,Barry</blockquote>

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