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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Ashrem Bayle" data-source="post: 872679" data-attributes="member: 3103">No. In fact, mass embraces are fairly rare. The Tzimisce, Assamites, and especially the Lasombra, can be very picky. In fact, I'd say the Lasombra are about the most picky clan there is. They often embrace "the normal way".The reason? If any member of Clan Lasombra can be proven by a fellow member of his clan that he isn't fit to be a member of Clan Lasombra, the clan elders grant the right to diablorize the incompetant vampire. No pressure... really. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f61b.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":p" title="Stick out tongue    :p"  data-smilie="7"data-shortname=":p" /> However, mass embraces serve several functions. One, it is a bonding experience for new packs. Also, only about a third of the vampires buried make it out. The Sabbat are very strong proponants of "survival of the fittest". They figure that if you didn't make it out, you didn't have what it takes to be a member of the Sword of Caine (fancy name for the Sabbat).A lot of vampires will spend a bit of time watching their potential progeny. Then they pitch them into the grave and hope they make it out.Some vampires aren't so lucky though. Sometimes the mass embrace is done for no other reason than to fill the ranks with cannon fodder during times of war. When this happens, the vampires that created them really don't care if the make it out or not. Those who survive the grave are put on the front lines. Then, those who survive the battles are sometimes approached by their sires and welcomed into the clan. Others are just killed or ignored if their sire doesn't want them.The Tzimisce, Lasombra, and a few other clans try to make sure they don't leave many strays around, but it does happen.</blockquote>

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