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<blockquote data-quote="Jemal" data-source="post: 877721" data-attributes="member: 9026"><p>First off, this is the only message I can see that shows a lack of respect.</p><p></p><p>All of Reapers questions were EXACTLY that... questions. they way they were asked may sound to you (And/or others) as if they are undiplomatic, but well that's too bad. </p><p>You do NOT have the right to apologize for the fact that Reaper has concerns+Questions. If Toki feels they are disrespectful, he will say that. If reaper THEN feels like apoligizing, he can do it himself. You apologizing for him before toki has even had a chance to say anything about it is a patronizing, "i know better than him" attitude. IMO You should be apologizing TO reaper, not for him. but of course I'm not going to tell you to do that, b/c it's Reaper you've been demeaning, not me. If he wants an apology from you he'll ask for one, just like if Toki wants an apology from Reaper, HE will ask for one.</p><p>Think about what you'ld feel like If I told Reaper "I apologize for Shalimars utter lack of respect and her patronizign attitude".</p><p>Doesn't feel good, does it? To have someone else tell you that your opinion is wrong.</p><p></p><p>Now I like to think that we're all fairly friendly around here(Even friends have arguments.. sometimes HEATED arguments), and I'm sure we can work this out. The easiest way I can see is to not ignore questions b/c you don't think the person asking them deserves an answer.</p><p></p><p>i'ld also like to say that I also know less than nothing about 1978 Barcellona, most certainly not enough to make a character for it that would seem 'real'. All I can do would be to come up with (As I'm attempting) a concept that would fit in fairly well anywhere at any time.</p><p>HEll, the only time I've ever heard of Barcellona before was when Eminem was on tour there.</p><p></p><p>I do not, by any means, disagree with everything Toki's doing. In fact, i don't 'disagree' with him on anything, I am simply stating that i know nothing about the setting and it is thus a bit of a struggle to come up with a character. I am, however, trying. I would also like to say that I agree with him on the Merits+Flaws thing, I never quite liked them. I feel it's a complex enough game without them, they're more for flavour than anything else IMO.</p><p></p><p></p><p>On 1 final note: </p><p>Kit + Reap, pls stop talking politics before a mod shuts the thread down. (And yes, discussions on whether or not America's civil rights are better than other countries is a VERY political topic with LOTS of feelings about it.) If not for the fact that I've been chastised repeatedly for making political coments on these boards I'ld be right in there with you guys, but If I say any more political things I'm likely to be banned from the boards.</p><p></p><p>I know kit posted that little 'disclaimer' but I'ld rather not take any chances unless a mod actually posts that what you two are doing is ok.</p><p>If you guys wanna keep talking about this, lets go to a board we can get into it deep, I'ld LOVE the chance to discuss this very issue.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Jemal, post: 877721, member: 9026"] First off, this is the only message I can see that shows a lack of respect. All of Reapers questions were EXACTLY that... questions. they way they were asked may sound to you (And/or others) as if they are undiplomatic, but well that's too bad. You do NOT have the right to apologize for the fact that Reaper has concerns+Questions. If Toki feels they are disrespectful, he will say that. If reaper THEN feels like apoligizing, he can do it himself. You apologizing for him before toki has even had a chance to say anything about it is a patronizing, "i know better than him" attitude. IMO You should be apologizing TO reaper, not for him. but of course I'm not going to tell you to do that, b/c it's Reaper you've been demeaning, not me. If he wants an apology from you he'll ask for one, just like if Toki wants an apology from Reaper, HE will ask for one. Think about what you'ld feel like If I told Reaper "I apologize for Shalimars utter lack of respect and her patronizign attitude". Doesn't feel good, does it? To have someone else tell you that your opinion is wrong. Now I like to think that we're all fairly friendly around here(Even friends have arguments.. sometimes HEATED arguments), and I'm sure we can work this out. The easiest way I can see is to not ignore questions b/c you don't think the person asking them deserves an answer. i'ld also like to say that I also know less than nothing about 1978 Barcellona, most certainly not enough to make a character for it that would seem 'real'. All I can do would be to come up with (As I'm attempting) a concept that would fit in fairly well anywhere at any time. HEll, the only time I've ever heard of Barcellona before was when Eminem was on tour there. I do not, by any means, disagree with everything Toki's doing. In fact, i don't 'disagree' with him on anything, I am simply stating that i know nothing about the setting and it is thus a bit of a struggle to come up with a character. I am, however, trying. I would also like to say that I agree with him on the Merits+Flaws thing, I never quite liked them. I feel it's a complex enough game without them, they're more for flavour than anything else IMO. On 1 final note: Kit + Reap, pls stop talking politics before a mod shuts the thread down. (And yes, discussions on whether or not America's civil rights are better than other countries is a VERY political topic with LOTS of feelings about it.) If not for the fact that I've been chastised repeatedly for making political coments on these boards I'ld be right in there with you guys, but If I say any more political things I'm likely to be banned from the boards. I know kit posted that little 'disclaimer' but I'ld rather not take any chances unless a mod actually posts that what you two are doing is ok. If you guys wanna keep talking about this, lets go to a board we can get into it deep, I'ld LOVE the chance to discuss this very issue. [/QUOTE]
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