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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Shalimar" data-source="post: 877990" data-attributes="member: 9600">Ok, heres a thought, all those willing to play in the Game Tokiwong offered to run, please raise your hands.  Those who don't have your hands raised, find another Storyteller.  He made an offer to do one thing, and you have basically all said you don't want to play in such a game and are now expecting him to change that, because of what you want.Jemal, I wasn't apologizing FOR Reapersaurus, I was apologizing because of him.  I am sorry if understanding the distinction is beyond you.  His statements linked all of us together as a gaming group, and while that is not incorrect, the way in which those statements were made was an embaressment to me as a member of the group he is claiming to represent.  I apologized out of embaressment that the rudeness could have appeared to have come from me in any matter if even only through the tenous link that Kitana, Ash, Catulle, Reap, and Tory share.And you somehow have the right to dictate to the story-teller?  If I was Tokiwong I would withdraw the offer post-haste due to the rudeness shown to him, and the pettyness that has been shown on all sides.  He would truly need to be a saint to want to put up with this group after the embarressing showing we have made of ourselves.As much as I wish to play in the game that Tokiwong actually offered to run for us, I refuse to play in it with a certain party.  The person I am speaking of isn't even really a player in our other Vampire game, he posts very rarely maybe once every 2 or 3 weeks or so and in the interim where he leaves other players hanging Barry is forced to treat the character as an NPC(playing the character much better I might add).I really do want to ask everyone one question though, and it goes back to my main point.  DMs post their ideas in this forum all the time, they ask for people who are intereseted to post and join in.  You wouldn't jump into a GMs recruiting thread and tell him to change his game and change the game rules would you?  NO, you would just think about whether or not you were fine with the limitation, if not you would just give the game a pass and not play.  Its always been your option to take a pass on the game if its one you didn't like.  Nothing gives anyone the right to just tell the storyteller to change his game, they don't have to play it.Tokiwong, I am truly sorry for any offense that this group may have presented you, and for any that I personally caused.  Please don't think poorly of all of us who play in the Camarilla vampire game.  I know I let my indignaion overwhelm my good manners in reaction to what has been said, and for that I am truly sorry.</blockquote>

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