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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Mouseferatu" data-source="post: 325916" data-attributes="member: 1288">Games Plus is the exception, not the rule.I don't have numbers (and if I did, I probably wouldn't be allowed to share them), but Vampire is still one of White Wolf's top selling games, and WW is still (behind WotC, of course) one of (if not the) biggest and best-selling RPG companies.Any game can be munchkined, of course, but I don't think Vampire is anywhere near the worst offender.  Sure, it needs a bit of DM/ST supervision, but what game doesn't, really?  Even D&D3, for all their talk about an "unbreakable system," can be min-maxed like crazy if you get one powergamer amidst a group of roleplayers.</blockquote>