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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Vocenoctum" data-source="post: 1557767" data-attributes="member: 2477">Don't get me wrong, I am sure WW wants the books out there to get the money from them as soon as they can. I do think the books should have been done earlier, especially since the End Times stuff was pretty few books. While I'm sure the Big End Books took time, but the amount of workload WW normally carries in the lines (ala, continious books for Vampire, Mage, Werewolf, Hunter, Demon, Kindred of the East, et cetera) gives me the impression that you folks have the manpower. As you say, I suppose it's the timing of when they started, I'm just not sure where WW was when they decided to End It All.IOW, I think having the replacement ready before hand makes more sense than the long wait.That said, I'm not a Mage fan, so it doesn't hurt me. I don't really frequent the other boards, and stopped reading the newsgroups years ago, so I don't know how badly they're screaming. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Only thing I can say about Vampire is.. New Orleans? ICK! Too Anne Rice for me. I haven't seen the take on it obviously, but NO is too cliche for my tastes.And, while I don't think it really affects you, the "they'll wait for quality" thing only goes so far. Shadowrun, Call of Cthulhu are both games I loved, but the sparse release schedules took the heart out of the games. I'm sure once you guys get done making WoD2, the releases will flow freely, but just keep in mind. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />The Rokugan info in the OA book itself was fine, since it was all history. I agree that major events in novels and other areas (Rokugan via the card games) get tedious. I was amazed by the changes I read for Forgotten Realms concerning the city of Shade.But White Wolf wasn't like that. Hunter had a metaplot, events flowed, the world happened. So did Demon. They weren't world shattering, they didn't require a lot of searching for answers. It just felt like the world evolved.Never got Trinity or Exalted. I may glance through Trinity d20, but gaming dollars are getting more examined nowadays. I almost bought Adventure d20, until I remembered having other Pulp games and everyone refusing to play them. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />I have bought way too much White Wolf material that I'll never use, so don't think I'm one of the Vampire haters or anything. It's just that the system doesn't really flow right for us. Shadowrun is one of the central games we play, and the systems are similar on some levels, yet WW's system just doesn't click for us.The rules would also have to be pretty simple, since I'd have to type them up for everyone. Any chance of a WoD2 SRD? <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />But, anyway, I will give it a look, but my lack of use of the 3 shelves of WW stuff I have predisposes me to not buying it. I hope you folks will have a Mummy/ Demon type Possessed Race at some point, since I never got to run neither those nor Nephilim.</blockquote>

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