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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Azaar" data-source="post: 812780" data-attributes="member: 1988">I've heard that Necromancy: Beyond the Grave was a good book.  Another good one is Hollowfaust:  City of Necromancers, which gives a good case for Necromancy not always being the evil arcane school that everyone pegs it to be.  The Secret College of Necromancy was okay, but I think it left some things to be desired.Personally, so far as necromancy goes, I think I have to jump on the bandwagon along with all those folks who say the best book is still the 2nd edition Complete Book of Necromancers.  I've made an effort to convert the Archetypal Necromancer kit into an arcane-only prestige class, and last night I finally got inspired enough to get started on the Deathslayer kit-to-PrC conversion.  Sooner or later I'll get started on the Anatomist, Philosopher and Undead Master kits and convert them as best as I can.Why would I want to do all this?  Because by and large, I dislike what's been done with necromancers.  A lot of spells that arcane necromancers could use from 2nd edition are forever lost, and what's left is almost not worth the effort of specializing in Necromancy.  Insofar as the prestge classes go, the Pale Master is a strange gimmick PrC (one I still swear by all the gods that I will play in my chaotic neutral Bard/Pale Master character concept (definitely with that nice Requiem feat from Song and Silence... I swear I will one day, just you wait)... interesting, but just not entirely there.  The True Necromancer, while admittedly closer, annoys me for the simple reason that you're forced to multiclass as a Death domain-using cleric to qualify, and for a prestige class supposedly geared towards wizards and sorcerers, I think it's sadly lacking (of course, if you play epic levels, then the True Necromancer would make a lot more sense for a multiclassed cleric-Necromancy specialist wizard).Sorry if this winds up turning the focus from the original topic, but I felt I should share my reasoning.  Any thoughts/constructive criticism is welcome. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" />Btw... Clay_More, it's definitely interesting.  I am, however, a bit leery of some of the higher-level vampires who look like they could smack around most of the deities in Deities and Demigods, but that's just my personal taste.  Otherwise, kudos on a job extremely well done. <img src="https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/joypixels/assets/8.0/png/unicode/64/1f642.png" class="smilie smilie--emoji" loading="lazy" width="64" height="64" alt=":)" title="Smile    :)"  data-smilie="1"data-shortname=":)" /></blockquote>

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