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Message: <blockquote data-quote="Scurvy_Platypus" data-source="post: 4870869" data-attributes="member: 43283">You might consider picking up Lords of the Night: Vampires by Bottled Imp. A pdf copy can be easily bought here:<a href="http://www.rpgnow.com/product_info.php?manufacturers_id=39&products_id=18261&it=1&filters=0_0_0_1100&manufacturers_id=39" target="_blank">The Lords of the Night: Vampires - Bottled Imp Games | RPGNow.com</a>Physical copies appear to be around $20 U.S.And here's a review of it:<a href="http://www.rpg.net/reviews/archive/9/9455.phtml" target="_blank">RPGnet : Review of The Lords of the Night: Vampires</a>Not saying you shouldn't do your own thing, just pointing out that you might be reinventing the wheel unnecessarily. With the horde of 3.x products out there, depending on what you're after it might be easier to start from an already established base and modify from there rather than trying to create an entirely new thing.The ECL calculators... I'd be reeeeeealllly careful there. Unless you're using Upper_Krust's CR system and the calculator is using those numbers. U_K's system seems pretty reasonable and I've found the SRD critters tend to match up better to actual performance rather than the somewhat higgledy-piggledy approach WotC CR stuff tends to take.For example, the d20 SRD online says the CR for a vampire template is the base creature's CR +2.U_K's system pegs the template as being worth +7.075 CR.</blockquote>