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<blockquote data-quote="Ovinomancer" data-source="post: 6789573" data-attributes="member: 16814"><p>Having finally gotten a look at the books, the answer to this is no, you cannot make an OA with VT.</p><p></p><p>The reasoning is this:</p><p>The spell grants you the ability to take an action to make a melee spell attack and inflict damage so long as the spell is up. It does not grant you a MSA, not does it say that you can make the MSA during an attack action, it literally gives you a new action option while the spell is up, and that action is to make an MSA using VT.</p><p></p><p>Since the spell does not grant you a MSA, but a new action option, then the MSA isn't available for you to make an OA with, because you don't have an MSA to make the OA. You only have a new option for your action.</p><p></p><p>This also addresses nicely the grapple issue, as there isn't an 'enchanted hand with which you touch people and they take damage', instead you have an new action option. So unless you take an action an use that option, VT doesn't interact at all. You can grapple all you like with your nice claw hand, but it doesn't ever do anything special unless you take the specific action that allows it to do something.</p><p></p><p>Short form: VT doesn't grant a MSA, it grants a new action option that allows an MSA only within that action. You have no MSA outside of that action option to make opportunity attacks with or super awesome auto-damage grapples. You have to take the action to get the MSA.</p></blockquote><p></p>
[QUOTE="Ovinomancer, post: 6789573, member: 16814"] Having finally gotten a look at the books, the answer to this is no, you cannot make an OA with VT. The reasoning is this: The spell grants you the ability to take an action to make a melee spell attack and inflict damage so long as the spell is up. It does not grant you a MSA, not does it say that you can make the MSA during an attack action, it literally gives you a new action option while the spell is up, and that action is to make an MSA using VT. Since the spell does not grant you a MSA, but a new action option, then the MSA isn't available for you to make an OA with, because you don't have an MSA to make the OA. You only have a new option for your action. This also addresses nicely the grapple issue, as there isn't an 'enchanted hand with which you touch people and they take damage', instead you have an new action option. So unless you take an action an use that option, VT doesn't interact at all. You can grapple all you like with your nice claw hand, but it doesn't ever do anything special unless you take the specific action that allows it to do something. Short form: VT doesn't grant a MSA, it grants a new action option that allows an MSA only within that action. You have no MSA outside of that action option to make opportunity attacks with or super awesome auto-damage grapples. You have to take the action to get the MSA. [/QUOTE]
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